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  1. #1
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    Angry Osai A-B 8600

    We have recently bought Utas ( Osai A-B 8600 Control )cnc Milling Machine with an OSAI – Allen Bradley 8600 control system. This unit when purchased by us was not working
    We are kindly request help in guiding us to sort out the below mentioned problem.( We change the battery cause the one we get it in the control was totaly Empty)

    When the machine is powered on the following messages are shown on the screen:

    SERIES 8600 ver 3.0
    DISC????
    BUBBLE????
    CMOS????
    EPROM????

    ***INIT ABORTED***
    I think we have to enter the Machine Parameters?
    As we don’t have the maintenance manual for this Mc – could you kindly assist us as to what “inputs” have to be entered for the details mentioned above? Where in your view might the problem be ?
    Are there any 8600 manuals ( service – troubleshooting – maintenance – programming ) - available –
    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated & helpful.

    Many Thanks in advance,

    Regards

    Eng. Yehia Abdou

  2. #2
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    Hi,

    If you didn't solve the problem yet:

    it looks like your system files are lost. First of all you have to check the batteries on the cards of the controller, and change them if necessary.

    then you have to reload all data. The system files you can find on the floppy disk that was supplied with the machine. You will also need a cable for transfer.

    If you have problems, you can send me an PM, or an e-mail at: [email protected]

  3. #3
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    HI I AM SHAMAS FOROM ISB PK .I HAD WORKED ON AB OSAI 8601T SERIAS CONTROL AND NOW WORKING AB OSAI 8600 CONTROL .I HAVE SOME OF DATA ABOUT THIS CONTROL AND KNOW WHERE ARE ITS SERVICE MANUL AVALABLE IF U NEED HELP THEN SEND ME EMAIL ON MY EMAIL ADDER. [email protected]

  4. #4
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    Angry OSAI 8600 after initialization problem

    Hello everybody,
    I need a help for OSAI 8600.
    After initialization of the CNC /batery replacement/ , the error messages on display apears in format - FILMSx.xx
    The system files and the files with error messages ara on the right place.
    Any idea how to solve this problem?

    Thanks in advance

  5. #5
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    hi cris5963;,
    I have some problem now.
    How can you solve this problem?
    Because pc not connect to nc with rs232.
    Is there any initializa methods?

  6. #6
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    I need help
    I have a cnc osai AB 8600 v 5.2 mono us with the following problems:
    srtring My4 error = 14,0,21
    Error number: 6
    Error number: 141

    Jorge Araya

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by JORGE ARAYA View Post
    I need help
    I have a cnc osai AB 8600 v 5.2 mono us with the following problems:
    srtring My4 error = 14,0,21
    Error number: 6
    Error number: 141

    Jorge Araya
    Error 141 seems to be THE POS record is missing (syntax or format error)
    for error 6 Unauthorized operator name (an error in a characterization file)

    My4 error?!?!

    Probably you should reload the all parameters

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by cris5963 View Post
    Hello everybody,
    I need a help for OSAI 8600.
    After initialization of the CNC /batery replacement/ , the error messages on display apears in format - FILMSx.xx
    The system files and the files with error messages ara on the right place.
    Any idea how to solve this problem?

    Thanks in advance
    If you didn't solve the error display problem: check if you still have the correct fcrsys file. In this file, section *7, all the 5 types of errors are assign to a specific error message file. (films1 to edperr, films2 to edpmsg, etc...)

  9. #9
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    how can reload all the parameters again from osai 6800

    thank you for responding

  10. #10
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    You'll need a back up of the characterization files (AXCFIL, EDPERR, EDPMSG, FCRSYS,....ETC), a cable and a transfer program. But I'm wondering what's that
    srtring My4 error = 14,0,21
    . Can you please give more details about this error? When the error appear on the monitor and the exact error message.

  11. #11
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    the machine now only shows the screen:
    eprom :???? ???? ???? ????
    CMOS :???? ????
    ****init aborted ****

  12. #12
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    Looks like you've lost all the data from the PLC. Usually it happens when the voltage of the batteries is low. First you have to check them and if necessary to replace the batteries, and than all to reload the files I mentioned before.

    For reloading the parameters there's a procedure in OSAI manuals, I don't remember exactly in which one. Send me a PM if you need more details.

  13. #13
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    How can enter the program of the machine, to review the program and see what can be wrong. If it is possible that file is needed to verify, it is possible to see the program only through the operator's screen or via a laptop.

    thanks

  14. #14
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    the battery voltage is correct 4 (v) that other causes may have to review.

  15. #15
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    inizialize 8600 os5005 fast cpu

    If your problem is that the 8600 board display only ??? is that lost parameter for working

    you first inizialize memory, after chek pres P0 in control panel, then when appear job you must write
    INI,MP0,/MP0
    INI,MP1,/MP1

    now if you type
    DIR/MP0 or DIR/MP1
    you can see the free block

    then you need to load or insert with editor 2 important file
    first is FCRSYS and the FILCAR.

    you can create it typing

    EDI,FCRSYS/MP0

    and

    EDI,FILCAR/MP0

    but you must write the parameter of your machine

    I have it mounted on a galaxy
    the FCRSYS is similar in same machine but the FILCAR depending from hardware.

  16. #16
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    Hello everybody,
    I need a help for OSAI AB 8600 cn
    I can as soon as posible operation manual for these CN.
    Thanks

  17. #17
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    I was able to fix some of the hardver problem and startup the OSAI 8600
    controller.

    I am trying to do a "System Clearout"

    which means that some of the memory segments have to be erased.

    I have got the following message during the process

    ""

    FILMS1 29 OUT OF MEMORY. this means that " A non existing address has
    been addressed with the DEBUG utility".

    I have typed the correct memory segment and it is still giving the same
    error message.

    Please help me on this or tell me who can I turn to related to my issue.


    Thanks

    Ferenc

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    i need help cnc giddings & lewis VTL 48.how I can repair a OPstation 501-04305-00 BD card which has video problems, have the manual for this cnc

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    why not contact the CNC manufacturer? See PRIMA ELECTRO | electronics and laser technologies

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    machine initialization

    Quote Originally Posted by Ing JTardini View Post
    Hello everybody,
    I need a help for OSAI AB 8600 cn
    I can as soon as posible operation manual for these CN.
    Thanks
    We have a SAMPUTENSILI OSAI A-B cnc 6800 Grinding machine that is failed.
    We are kindly request a help to solve this problem.

    1. Even we execute RUN,DEBUG
    We can t get the INI MENU on the screen video to fill the memories OS 5241 and OS 5OO5 with zeros “0”

    ‘ Menu: [Modify | Copy | Fill | Display | Exit] ‘

    2. How to reset OS5241 and OS 5005

    Thanks
    Best regards

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