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  1. #301
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    Not to hijack your awesome thread, but speaking of rotating ball nuts, here is my design:
    Arjay, thank you, you are not hijacking,
    it is related to what I am doing here.

    I am not a machinist so I had expert people of the
    trade built four different prototype designs until I
    came to the one I am using now. It all comes down
    to build-ability at a shop at a reasonable cost.

    And I want to keep everything manufactured in the US as much as I can.

  2. #302
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Carefully push the ball nut assembly
    with the angular thrust bearings into
    the bearing seat on the X-plate,
    positioning the belt over the pulley:
    Attachment 415068

    Make sure the shoulder bolt is aligned
    with the ball nut retainer notch:
    Attachment 415070






    You are welcome to utilize any parts of the design for your personal use.
    Please contact me for commercial applications.

  3. #303
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Install the bolts for the retainer
    and install the dust cap:
    Attachment 415072

    Bottom view:
    Attachment 415074

    Z-axis drive on the machine:
    Attachment 415076

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  4. #304
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Install the top brace of the
    Z-slide to the 30mm shafts:
    Attachment 415080

    Push the Z-slide up to
    the top of the ball screw:
    Attachment 415082

    And tighten down the
    Z-slide to the ball screw:
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  5. #305
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Z-slide finished:
    Attachment 415086

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  6. #306
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    The rotating ball nut drive can accommodate
    from 20 to 40 tooth pulleys on the stepper side.

    The ball nut side is fixed at 40 tooth.

    That gives a belt drive gearing of 1:2 to 1:1 ratio.

    With a 20 tooth pulley, 2,000 rpm on the servo would equate to 157.48 ipm

    With a 40 tooth pulley, 2,000 rpm on the servo would equate to 314.96 ipm

    I will be using a 30 tooth pulley on the Z-axis for testing.

  7. #307
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    .


    X-AXIS BALL SCREW INSTALLATION:

    Assembled X-axis plate installs on the back,
    driving directly the lower carriage plate:
    Attachment 415104

    Lower mounting points:
    Attachment 415106

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  8. #308
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Install ball screw ends into
    pockets on A/Y carriages:
    Attachment 415110

    Attachment 415112

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  9. #309
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    X-Axis ball screw finished:
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  10. #310
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Looking good, looks like you should be testing the motion this week.

  11. #311
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    .
    Thanks Dan, I might be able to do that.

    Y AND A - AXES BALL SCREW INSTALLATION:


    Assembled Y/A plates mount directly to the 3060:
    Attachment 415124

    Bottom part:
    Attachment 415126

    With the sensor installed:
    Attachment 415128

    Wires tidied up:
    Attachment 415130

    And ball screw ends fixed in end plates:
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  12. #312
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

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    This is where I am right now with the build.

    I will post from now on as I proceed in real time.

    Thank you all for your inputs.


    .

  13. #313
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Nice looking forward to seeing it finished up and seeing the hold down and coolant system in action. Very creative design on the coolant/vacuum table.

    Dan

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

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    Question:

    Is it better to have the VFD being on all the time or switched on/off by the relay?

  15. #315
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    On mine the drive is powered up when the controller is powered up but the signal to the Acorn board goes through the relay board. Eventually as I was telling you earlier I'm going to install contactor for the VFD so I can turn it off from the controller or a plc if I need to. Right now I have to turn off the breaker that the VFD goes to if I want to turn it off. It works fine this way, but I would rather do it from the CNCPC instead of opening the enclosure.

    Dan

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    From what I read, some people leave the VFD on 24/7. I wouldn't know if it is any better or not.

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    .

    Question:

    Is it better to have the VFD being on all the time or switched on/off by the relay?
    When you shut the machine down the VFD should turn off
    Mactec54

  18. #318
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    From what I read, some people leave the VFD on 24/7. I wouldn't know if it is any better or not.
    I definitely wouldn't leave it on 24/7 since the fan runs on my VFD the whole time it's on. I'm pretty sure yours will too since I think we both have the same model VFD. That's one of the reasons I want to be able to turn it on and off from the controller since the fan is loud and my machine sits idle for long periods of time.

  19. #319
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Ok, thanks, will do.

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ntl View Post
    Eventually as I was telling you earlier I'm going to install contactor for the VFD so I can turn it off from the controller or a plc if I need to. Right now I have to turn off the breaker that the VFD goes to if I want to turn it off. It works fine this way, but I would rather do it from the CNCPC instead of opening the enclosure.

    Dan

    FWIW, I've heard many times that you shouldn't use contactors in your boxes, because they put out a lot of noise. Personally, I don't know either way. I don't have test equipment to measure for it. Nevertheless, I decided it was better to be safe than sorry, so I removed the contactors and replaced them with 40 amp rotary switches. No downside, except for a few dollars. 40 amp was way larger than I needed, but the price was right.

    Gary

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