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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Storen View Post
    Which model comes with this cabinet? Could you please show a picture?
    Mines crated and in our container (we’re in the process of moving country) but this is the same model. Mine has pass-through doors, as well..


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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ledaero View Post
    Is it worth the $12,000 difference you charge over my ShenHui?

    That came with hybrid Leadshine steppers and motion control drivers @36V, a Reci W6, a genuine HY PSU, quality Taiwanese sealed rails, great airflow and a European-designed cabinet, wiring and keyed lockout.

    For just over $3k.

    Sure, it doesn’t have tempered glass or a three-year warranty, but it was $3k.

    I could have optioned servos and a higher-spec multi-mode cooler for under a grand difference in price.

    For the kind of money Bodor and Aeon are charging I could have gotten servos and a high-powered RF or fibre laser.

    Ive been around lasers since the early 90s and motion-control systems since the early noughts and I can’t see where all the money goes.
    What I've learned is the it all comes down to the individual customer and what priorities they hold highest. For example, if you take your car to the dealership to get new brakes, the price is 3-4 times more than if you were to just do it yourself. So why is the service lane still full day in and day out? Well, some people don't have the skills or the tools to maintenance their vehicle themselves. Some people might have the tools, but not the confidence or maybe even just the free time to perform their own maintenance. And some people just don't even want to think or worry about, "just tell me how much I owe and when I can come pick it up." So you see, it can all be summed up as different strokes for different folks.

    The laser world is no exception and so the type of customer we cater to is the type that holds the service and worry-free aspect higher than the amount of money and precious time they'd spend. Now, to offer this service on a large scale, like in the dealership example, you can't simply go Your Price - My Cost = Profit. There is a staggering list of costs associated with running an operation like this, especially in the laser industry. We're talking warehouse space, office space, sales staff, admin staff, skilled technicians, shipping brokers, logistic companies, freight forwarders, liability insurance, insurance claims, advertising, content building, showroom space, quality control, technical support, repairs and lets not forget 28.5% import duties before we even touch the thing.

    You'd be surprised, there are many times where the juice is just not worth the squeeze. You can tie up your best technician for 3 days solid working on a stubborn machine only to ship it out late and then have the shipping company destroy it in transit. As a business, what choice do you have? You accept your fate and you roll with the punches. You rush out that second machine, you fight the insurance company, you ship out that replacement 150W laser tube for the 4th time, you put that technician on the next flight out and you work twice as hard to try to make up that loss before the next incident occurs. Believe it or not, just a few weeks ago we had 4 machines get damaged in transit on the same day! It is absolutely mind boggling how much loss we deal with, but at the end of the day, it's exactly the reason why our customers pay a premium versus going about it on their own.

    So for the DIY person, you're absolutely right, you can source your own machine, fumble through the export/import process, troubleshoot on the forums and get a free education in lasers and motion control systems all for a fraction of the cost. But for the average startup company, for the expanding small business, for the intimidated first time buyer who is hardly proficient in computers much less technically savvy, we offer the luxury of providing a quality product, reliable after sale support and a worry free experience free from all the frustrations and horror stories we've seen on this forum.

    In the end, it really comes down to the individual. If your top priority is getting as much machine for as little money, then there are plenty of people on this forum to help you do just that, but if you want a turn key solution that shows up at your door step with a magic lamp inside that you can rub whenever you have a problem, that's where we come in. So as personal rule of thumb, before I give anyone any advice, I always find out what they hold highest on their priority list. Only then will I know what type of customer they are and which direction to point them in.

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Storen View Post
    Which model comes with this cabinet? Could you please show a picture?


    Nice looking showroom! The interior architect you hired definitely knows what he/she is doing. I wish more dealers do that instead of asking their wives and secretaries to pick the furniture and colors.
    Thanks Storen, I actually designed it myself. We signed a long lease on the building, so figured we'd settle in for the long haul. If you're ever in Florida you should stop by. Would love to let you take one of these NOVAs for a spin to see what you think.

    Danny Martinez
    Engraving Machines Plus, Corp.
    (321) 821-7774
    [email protected]
    Melbourne, FL

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    So for the DIY person, you're absolutely right, you can source your own machine, fumble through the export/import process, troubleshoot on the forums and get a free education in lasers and motion control systems all for a fraction of the cost.
    Or not ‘fumble through’, or get ‘a free education’, but be professional and studious about what you do. I can see why you’re a salesman and why I’m an engineer.

    Your analogy doesn’t hold water.

    I can order an Aeon or Bodor online for 5x the price of a ShenHui. Direct from Aeon or Bodor. Even worse, a Thunderlaser for 5x the price, which is actually a pretty bad machine.

    I’m quite aware of the mechanisms of trade, I understand holding stock, etc., but you’re avoiding the main point - when a hobbyist wants a machine on a limited budget, and has been told ‘Aeon are the one to go for’, I question why that is. Mechanically, they aren’t superior, feature-wise it’s a wash and they look pretty. But they are $12k more for a pretty case.

    I’ve no issue with making a profit for providing a service, but that’s not what the discussion was about. I also don’t have a problem with charging a premium for hand-holding - there’s a lot of inept people out there that have made me wealthy with their ineptitude. But the statement was made that it’s a ‘better’ or ‘the best’ choice, when it simply isn’t. It’s ‘a’ choice that might suit some people who value hand-holding over buying on quality terms.

    As an engineer, my idea of what is ‘better’ or ‘best’ has nothing to do with price, support, stock-holding or training. Your mileage may differ.

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    Not sure what is going on with this forum. I have to log in to Industry Arena which has the same posts as CNC Zone but Industry Arena is NOT in sync with CNC Zone...weird.....

    Well not sure if this post will sync in with all the new posts I am seeing on CNC Zone but will give it a go.

    Firstly, this thread has blossomed into a great read on how to select a cutter. Great input, thanks !!

    @Ledaero

    No attitude here at all. Simply stating what I believe to be a fact. No Chinese machine is as good as a US made machine. A US machine is probably not as good as German/Swiss machine. Like you I also have many years of experience with machines (not laser cutters or CNC) and that has been my experience. YMMV.

    I am all for saving money and if I can get a reasonably decent machine that can do the job then I would be seriously interested in that. Hence asking here.

    I am interested in Chinese because shipping is the easiest where I am. I am in East Africa, so shipping from China to here is the simplest and most cost effective of any place to ship from to here. So if I can get a Chinese machine well and good. I still have reservations though no matter what anyone says. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

    Some things have changed.

    I have been doing a HUGE deep dive into this for almost 2 weeks now. Day and night at the PC reading and downloading. Surely no expert of course but a lot more up to speed now on many areas of laser cutter. I have come to understand what a glass tube can do and what an RF laser can do.

    I never set out to buy according to what a particular factory makes, its just that the AEON machines piqued my interest because of being a bit better built. At that stage i thought I wanted a small machine to learn on since it was all so new and a bit scary getting into since I had zero experience in this. Now having spent over 100 hours researching , reading and watching countless YouTube videos its all feeling a bit more comfortable now.

    So taking heed of some advice here, I went back to the start to analyze my needs so I could better understand what it is I need.

    My primary mission critical need is to cut plywood (90%)and Acrylic (10)%. Further down the track the day will come when I dont need to make any more parts. So what to do with the machine then? (doubt I could sell it here). So engraving becomes important later on.

    So Plywood.

    Did a huge amount of research into this. Turns out that Laser grade ply is best. For finer work, 4mm is best as it has fewer plys (3 ply) - therefore less chance of hitting knots, voids etc on the inner ply. Need ply with interior grade glue that is Urea Formaldehyde/Melamine formaldehyde based. Really need to avoid Phenol-formaldehyde glues.

    Best Plywood for Laser Cutting is Baltic Birch. This further breaks down to Finnish Baltic Birch and Russian Baltic Birch. Same tree , different mills. Russian is cheaper and not far behind Finnish/Latvian Birch. Finnish is the most expensive.

    Most readily available sizes are 1525 x 1525mm and 1525mm x 1250mm.

    Chinese Baltic Birch from the best mills in China typically use several pieces to make a ply layer, whilst the Scandinavian/Russian Mills use a single piece to make a ply layer. Chinese Birch is reported to vary quite widely even within a single batch. I will be importing a container load of Baltic Birch from Russia and aiming for 1525 x 1250mm at this stage.

    Given this deeper understanding of what material I will be working with I have now expanded the size/budget of a Lase Cutter substantially. I need a cutting table that can accommodate a full 1525 x 1250 mm sheet (given the cost of buying this material and shipping it here from Russia it only makes sense to purchase a machine that takes full advantage of this sheet size).

    So Bigger machine class altogether.

    I looked into GCC. Seem to be nice machines but thier biggest machine is too small. Now looking for a GOOD (VERY GOOD) Chinese machine with a table at least 1525x 1250mm cutting area.

    I am still open to a Glass Tube but think I would prefer an RF Laser. Later on I may want to cut up to 25mm ply so need a powerful Laser - thinking around 400W.

    This may all change again but thats where I am now.

    I see AEON is no longer my target machine. Decided that I am going to jump straight in and buy the machine I need for production first UP instead of messing with a small machine first.

    Clearly, I cant get to the USA to look at machines - sorry Danny. A US based supplier of Chinese machines could not help me much other then hand hold over the phone. Better to buy in China and fly Leadero or Soren over for a week of work and a week of sight seeing :-)

    So given all this, what input now?

    Leadero, very interested in your input since you have been buying these machines for a long time, so figure you know your way around these machines and China !

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    Not sure what is going on with this forum. I have to log in to Industry Arena which has the same posts as CNC Zone but Industry Arena is NOT in sync with CNC Zone...weird.....

    Well not sure if this post will sync in with all the new posts I am seeing on CNC Zone but will give it a go.

    Firstly, this thread has blossomed into a great read on how to select a cutter. Great input, thanks !!

    @Ledaero

    No attitude here at all. Simply stating what I believe to be a fact. No Chinese machine is as good as a US made machine. A US machine is probably not as good as German/Swiss machine. Like you I also have many years of experience with machines (not laser cutters or CNC) and that has been my experience. YMMV.

    I am all for saving money and if I can get a reasonably decent machine that can do the job then I would be seriously interested in that. Hence asking here.

    I am interested in Chinese because shipping is the easiest where I am. I am in East Africa, so shipping from China to here is the simplest and most cost effective of any place to ship from to here. So if I can get a Chinese machine well and good. I still have reservations though no matter what anyone says. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

    Some things have changed.

    I have been doing a HUGE deep dive into this for almost 2 weeks now. Day and night at the PC reading and downloading. Surely no expert of course but a lot more up to speed now on many areas of laser cutter. I have come to understand what a glass tube can do and what an RF laser can do.

    I never set out to buy according to what a particular factory makes, its just that the AEON machines piqued my interest because of being a bit better built. At that stage i thought I wanted a small machine to learn on since it was all so new and a bit scary getting into since I had zero experience in this. Now having spent over 100 hours researching , reading and watching countless YouTube videos its all feeling a bit more comfortable now.

    So taking heed of some advice here, I went back to the start to analyze my needs so I could better understand what it is I need.

    My primary mission critical need is to cut plywood (90%)and Acrylic (10)%. Further down the track the day will come when I dont need to make any more parts. So what to do with the machine then? (doubt I could sell it here). So engraving becomes important later on.

    So Plywood.

    Did a huge amount of research into this. Turns out that Laser grade ply is best. For finer work, 4mm is best as it has fewer plys (3 ply) - therefore less chance of hitting knots, voids etc on the inner ply. Need ply with interior grade glue that is Urea Formaldehyde/Melamine formaldehyde based. Really need to avoid Phenol-formaldehyde glues.

    Best Plywood for Laser Cutting is Baltic Birch. This further breaks down to Finnish Baltic Birch and Russian Baltic Birch. Same tree , different mills. Russian is cheaper and not far behind Finnish/Latvian Birch. Finnish is the most expensive.

    Most readily available sizes are 1525 x 1525mm and 1525mm x 1250mm.

    Chinese Baltic Birch from the best mills in China typically use several pieces to make a ply layer, whilst the Scandinavian/Russian Mills use a single piece to make a ply layer. Chinese Birch is reported to vary quite widely even within a single batch. I will be importing a container load of Baltic Birch from Russia and aiming for 1525 x 1250mm at this stage.

    Given this deeper understanding of what material I will be working with I have now expanded the size/budget of a Lase Cutter substantially. I need a cutting table that can accommodate a full 1525 x 1250 mm sheet (given the cost of buying this material and shipping it here from Russia it only makes sense to purchase a machine that takes full advantage of this sheet size).

    So Bigger machine class altogether.

    I looked into GCC. Seem to be nice machines but thier biggest machine is too small. Now looking for a GOOD (VERY GOOD) Chinese machine with a table at least 1525x 1250mm cutting area.

    I am still open to a Glass Tube but think I would prefer an RF Laser. Later on I may want to cut up to 25mm ply so need a powerful Laser - thinking around 400W.

    This may all change again but thats where I am now.

    I see AEON is no longer my target machine. Decided that I am going to jump straight in and buy the machine I need for production first UP instead of messing with a small machine first.

    Clearly, I cant get to the USA to look at machines - sorry Danny. A US based supplier of Chinese machines could not help me much other then hand hold over the phone. Better to buy in China and fly Leadero or Soren over for a week of work and a week of sight seeing :-)

    So given all this, what input now?

    Leadero, very interested in your input since you have been buying these machines for a long time, so figure you know your way around these machines and China !

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    About DC (aka glass) vs RF - your budget (15K) is not sufficient for a machine with an RF source powerful enough for cutting. For cutting wood and opaque acrylic a DC leaser will be as good as RF. You may see a small improvement in the edge quality when cutting transparent acrylic with RF since the edges would be more visible. I would advise against buying an RF in your case. Just keep in mind that the DC "tubes" have a relatively short life and have to be replaced frequently.

    For a large machine, you may want to consider replacing the belts with ball-screws. If done correctly it will increase the precision significantly. The downside of that is the machine will become too slow for engraving, therefore, you may need a second machine for the engraving jobs. You may also want to use closed-loop steppers instead of regular ones. It would make sense to reduce the chance or errors when cutting large, expensive sheets.

    We've never discussed what you intend to make exactly and do you need a large engraving area. For the engraving operations would be best to get a low-wattage RF. The difference between the engraving quality of a high-wattage DC and an RF laser would be huge!

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    As an engineer, my idea of what is ‘better’ or ‘best’ has nothing to do with price, support, stock-holding or training. Your mileage may differ.
    This further supports what I was saying, what is best is relative to the individual and what they value most. In you case, it's all about the components and that's great... for you. However, that is not to say that overall performance, training or after sales support are not an important part of the decision making process for someone else. While I can see the point you are trying to make, in this particular case, we weren't talking about "a hobbyist who wants a machine on a limited budget."

    I want as big a cutter as I can afford. I have a budget of around 15K USD + shipping and import duties etc.
    At best, you've made an argument for the quality of your machine based on the brand names of its components. Your advice is largely based on a matter of opinion and relies heavily on the assumption that no better brands have come along that may be superior to the ones you've come to know. Even as a "salesman", I know better than to talk down a machine that I know nothing about short of reading the spec sheet. If I was to take your approach, I would make sure to at least bring some facts to support my claim. A fair comparison between all of the components you've listed would take a significant amount of time and research and go far beyond their brand names. Even then, you'd be basing your decision without having experienced the other machine in question for yourself.

    Let's see if this analogy holds water. Take Car and Driver Magazine for example. When they put two comparable vehicles up against each other, they never make their recommendation based on the specs alone. They are well aware that to give a credible review, they need to get behind the wheel of both vehicles and speak from the full experience. When it's all said and done, it's mainly through their experience that they arrive at their point of view. If they were to simply judge either vehicle by solely the sum of its parts, this would give the readers a very detached review that would lead to a distorted opinion. Besides, Car and Spec Sheet just doesn't have the same ring to it.

    be cautious of people recommending stuff they don't use themselves
    That's actually great advise. By the same logic, you can also say, "be cautious of people discrediting stuff they don't use themselves." At the end of the day, we can only speak truthfully from our experience. As an end user, I've operated several makes and models of CO2 lasers, both Chinese and American. As a salesman, I've worked with thousands of clients ranging from hobbyists to Fortune 500 Companies. As a dealer in Chinese lasers, I've torn into enough machines to warrant the development of an extensive quality control program that till this day, not a single Chinese manufacturer I've dealt with has been able to surpass. I've learned a lot in the last ten years of doing this as a profession, yet I hesitate to call my self an expert as I still learn something new every day.

    I'll be the first to admit I cannot talk intelligently about Shenhui lasers as I've never used one. If I do a search on this forum and use what I find to form an opinion, it would come from no real experience of my own and rest entirely on the assumption that what I've read is one, true and two, all there is to know about Shenhui lasers. Since brand names and personal opinions barely scratch the surface of what makes a machine "better" or "best", how about we put these machines side by side to a real performance test. After all, if anything can attest to the quality of these components it will be seeing them in action first hand while they're performing in concert.

    I recommend we select a file that shows off both cut and scan functions to see which machine can deliver the best results. We can leave the laser tubes out of this and solely focus on speed and precision. Drawing on paper would be an excellent way to see how well each machine can handle linear and circular interpolation. We can agree to use the same lens and run the test at various speeds to see if they can keep up with one another. When it's all said and done, we can upload our videos and high resolutions images for everyone to see. In fact, if any other Chinese laser users or dealers would like to participate, I say the more the merrier. I've done my research, you've done yours, I say it's time we call and see which one of us is left holding the winning hand.


    Danny Martinez
    Engraving Machines Plus, Corp.
    (321) 821-7774
    [email protected]
    Melbourne, FL

    <img src="http://www.engraving-machines-plus.com/assets/images/EMP_Logo_2_Small.png" alt="321-821-7774">

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    ---Quote---
    As an engineer, my idea of what is ‘better’ or ‘best’ has nothing to do with price, support, stock-holding or training. Your mileage may differ.
    ---End Quote---
    This further supports what I was saying, what is best is relative to the individual and what they value most. In you case, it's all about the components and that's great... for you. However, that is not to say that overall performance, training or after sales support are not an important part of the decision making process for someone else. While I can see the point you are trying to make, in this particular case, we weren't talking about "a hobbyist who wants a machine on a limited budget."


    ---Quote---
    I want as big a cutter as I can afford. I have a budget of around 15K USD + shipping and import duties etc.
    ---End Quote---
    At best, you've made an argument for the quality of the your machine based on the brand names of its components. Your advice is largely based on a matter of opinion and relies heavily on the assumption that no better brands have come along that may be superior to the ones you've come to know. Even as a "salesman", I know better than to talk down a machine that I know nothing about short of reading the spec sheet. If I was to take your approach, I would make sure to at least bring some facts to support my claim. A fair comparison between all of the components you've listed would take a significant amount of time and research and go far beyond their brand names. Even then, you'd be basing your decision without having experienced the other machine in question for yourself.

    Let's see if this analogy holds water. Take Car and Driver Magazine for example. When they put two comparable vehicles up against each other, they never make their recommendation based on the specs alone. They are well aware that to give a credible review, they need to get behind the wheel of both vehicles and speak from the full experience. When it's all said and done, it's mainly through their experience that they arrive at their point of view. If they were to simply judge either vehicle by solely the sum of its parts, this would give the readers a very detached review that would lead to a distorted opinion. Besides, Car and Spec Sheet just doesn't have the same ring to it.


    ---Quote---
    be cautious of people recommending stuff they don't use themselves
    ---End Quote---
    That's actually great advise. By the same logic, you can also say, "be cautious of people discrediting stuff they don't use themselves." At the end of the day, we can only speak truthfully from our experience. As an end user, I've operated several makes and models of CO2 lasers, both Chinese and American. As a salesman, I've worked with thousands of clients ranging from hobbyists to Fortune 500 Companies. As a dealer in Chinese lasers, I've torn into enough machines to warrant the development of an extensive quality control program that till this day, not a single Chinese manufacturer I've dealt with has been able to surpass. I've learned a lot in the last ten years of doing this as a profession, yet I hesitate to call my self an expert as I still learn something new every day.

    I'll be the first to admit I cannot talk intelligently about Shenhui lasers as I've never used one. If I do a search on this forum and use what I find to form an opinion, it would come from no real experience of my own and rest entirely on the assumption that what I've read is one, true and two, all there is to know about Shenhui lasers. Since brand names and personal opinions barely scratch the surface of what makes a machine "better" or "best", how about we put these machines side by side to a real performance test. After all, if anything can attest to the quality of these components it will be seeing them in action first hand while they're performing in concert.

    I recommend we select a file that shows off both cut and scan functions to see which machine can deliver the best results. We can leave the laser tubes out of this and solely focus on speed and precision. Drawing on paper would be an excellent way to see how well each machine can handle linear and circular interpolation. We can agree to use the same lens and run the test at various speeds to see if they can keep up with one another. When it's all said and done, we can upload our videos and high resolutions images for everyone to see. In fact, if any other Chinese laser users or dealers would like to participate, I say the more the merrier. I've done my research, you've done yours, I say it's time we call and see which one of us is left holding the winning hand.


    Danny Martinez
    Engraving Machines Plus, Corp.
    (321) 821-7774
    [email protected]
    Danny @ Engraving Machines - there seems to. be something strange about this thread - I get the email notifications of updates, but can only see a few posts (number 9 then a jump to 29, this one) and not the one you just made...

    What you suggest is a great idea and one that the industry needs - a standardised series of tests that manufacturers can use to show their machine's capabilities. I'm all for it. Why hasn't the 'industry' gotten together to arrange such a thing? I suspect because vendors like you don't want to go head-to-head with Epilog, Trotec, Universal, et.al.

    Further, you seem to correlate questioning claims with 'dissing' brands.

    The claim was made that Aeon was 'the brand to have' with no more evidence than a frequent poster's opinion - and I'm not even sure he owns one.

    I'm acting as Caesar's wife - questioning, not taking sides. I posted my latest machine's spec and make as an example of what could be had on a budget.

    I have three (well, five if you count the things I've built over the years) functioning lasers from A4 to 1325. My business has 12 A4 size and an A3 sized unit. I've been integrating and servicing commercial lasers since 1998.
    I am intimately familiar with the components that go into them, from the thickness of steel, hinges and fasteners, switch-gear and wires, to the electronic components. My business is two-fold - I make stuff to sell and I run a learning lab where I teach 'making' - everything from soldering to programming, from sanding to CNC routing. I see people break stuff and become confused every day.

    I'm not an expert - I have no idea how to make the rubber stamps my wife wants, even though making rubber stamps was the thing that got me into lasers in the first place - but it won't take me long to figure it out. And that will be another course for the students and stock of laserable rubber sheets and handles. I'm not a 'user' of such technologies and until I need to learn it, I don't know how to do it. My personal use of lasers is long on cutting 3mm and 6mm sheet goods and short on nearly everything else. Engraving isn't my bag, but I can teach you how to do it.

    A quality shootout will no doubt end up with you winning - you have servos, I don't. I have closed-loop 3-phase steppers, so that's better than most of the crap sold on Ebay and Amazon and AliExpress, but it's still not going to accelerate and turn on a dime like a servo can.

    When you win, does that mean your units are worth $12k more than mine, or does the tiny percentage difference in speed and quality mean you're $10 overpriced?

    Be careful what you wish for.

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Hi Ledaero

    Nick from the UK. Will you be able to hint to me the manufacturer you were talking about? I'm following the posts around this topic(which manufacturer from China) for a while and I must say that many of you few other guys are really helpful for us the newbies. Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBhunter View Post
    Hi Ledaero

    Nick from the UK. Will you be able to hint to me the manufacturer you were talking about? I'm following the posts around this topic(which manufacturer from China) for a while and I must say that many of you few other guys are really helpful for us the newbies. Thanks in advance!
    Send me a PM and I’ll put you in touch

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    We're LightObject, located in Sacramento, CA. It is really about your application,
    what do you want to use the machine for?
    Material thickness?
    More engraving or cutting, or combination of both?
    We can offer Falcon 900x600 with powered Z bed, red dot pointer, 100W CO2 laser tube at about half of your budget.
    Please visit us at www.lightobject.com
    For more information, please feel free to call us at (916) 383 8166 or [email protected]
    If you like to see a cutting sample, please feel free to let us know. Thank you.

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Our company is located in Jinan, which is a very famous foreign trade company in Jinan. We have the 6090 laser machine you need. If you are interested, you can search ACCTEK to learn about our products, or contact me for more information.

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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Our company is located in Jinan, which is a very famous foreign trade company in Jinan. We have the 6090 laser machine you need. If you are interested, you can search ACCTEK to learn about our products, or contact me for more information.

  15. #35
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    Re: First Laser Cutting Machine purchase - any pointers?

    Do you know Boss laser? Why not buy from them directly?

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