[blades]

I just picked up one of these controllers, and as per usual the Chinglish manual is nearly useless. Seems like a decent controller, but from all my searching I'm starting to feel like the userbase is extremely thin. I've got it hooked up to my x-carve and it's functioning, with the exception of home functionality, and proper functioning of the limit switches. The limit switches work, but forces a reset and you have to manually back the machine off the switch. Wondering if this is normal for this controller. My previous DDCSV2.1 controller didn't do this.

[shearder]

Why did you change from the ddcsv?

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[blades]

As it turns out, I didn't change from it. I picked up the SMC5 controller to have expanded functionality and larger screen, but it wasn't really necessary. I ended up getting a new DDCS v3.1 controller instead.

[Zenji]

Some information now about SMC5-5-n-n gathered from google.
To update firmware, type SZMAP0 at the 'Factory' key prompt, not sure if the last character was a letter or digit.
To roll back to factory settings type 000001 all are digits.
To edit the firmwares visual interface, lolette refers to a software for windows named OP20.
I think its only a screen editor and an understanding of coding will be required to bridge the link for the on screen buttons.
There are complaints on youtube about probing not being available and limits requiring reset, most industrial machines i used to work with were much the same so they must be comparing to the advanced state of firmware development with the ddscv, which is limited to 4 axis.
A Thailand supplier is now bundling an encoder wheel pendant and a 12v power supply for price of the original ebay offering, so the price is finally moving a bit lower.

[Biggyboy]

Well it's been quite the learning curve! But final after staring at the postprocessor file that I opened in Visual studio code for several hours, I was able to figure out how to get the postprocessor in Fusion 360 changed to have it automatically add a line after every G53 with a G90.
I used the stock Mach3mill postprocessor file and modified it and renamed it. Now I can get back to making parts again.

Glen

[Biggyboy]

Just stumbled or should I say crashed into another fusion 360 made code that this controller doesn't like to work nice with. It's G17
for some reason fusion while post processing added a G17 after doing a ramping tool path at the end. then when the program went to go do a slotting run, for what ever reason the controller was now in incremental ( relative mode) instead of Absolute mode. so the fix will be to rework the fusion Mach postprocessor to either not put the G17 in or at the least to have it put a G90 in directly after a G17.

The G17 is used to tell the machine that you are working in the X,Y axis, which is as far as I can see an unnecessary bit of code for a homemade 3 axis machine. I never left the X,Y axis!!


Glen

[Biggyboy]

I have about 3 hours of run time on the SMC and it’s working well. The key to using this controller is to learn what G code it doesn’t like and to avoid using said code LOL. Kind of sucks but it is workable and it’s quite nice to get away from a PC and Mach3.


Glen

[Zenji]

According to this thread there exist an input pulse for a 6th axis! Somewhere inside this thing a number 6 can be unlocked!
https://www.fastercnc.com/2019/05/08/smc5-5-n-n-how-to-connect-mpg/

Edit: i think they ceased production now of smc5.

[Zenji]

Ok, update, this thing has tool probe and setting probe features, 5 axis interpolation smoothing, 500khz per axis.

https://youtu.be/NBaUlAcllD4

[epicler]

Hi to all!
I'm new here and would like to have some help from you please.
I have installed the SMC5-5-N-N Controller on my benchtop Milling MAchine.
I could set the Hybrid motors running fine as well as the soft limits and the homing function with. I also could get the MPG working fine.
I could not find a place to set up the BACKLASH compensation. Does this controller have a backlash feature?
Anyone here knows where to find a Firmware update to download?
On this video ( ) I observed that he has a more recent version and the screen buttons are different (more coherent names).
The controller is very good with many resources but The manual is very poor with "Chinglish" almost useless!

Thank you in advance for your help.

Edi

[Zenji]

Cnc ninja now has the source code and hopefully it can now get debugged, all we need is a source for spare keypad membranes now.

[amatipro]

Cnc ninja now has the source code and hopefully it can now get debugged, all we need is a source for spare keypad membranes now.

Any idea where this source code could be found?

[Biggyboy]

Here are some photos of some laser etching I've done so far.








Glen

[Steve1050]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the advice in this thread. Finally got the controller to do what I wanted using Fusion 360.

[Biggyboy]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the advice in this thread. Finally got the controller to do what I wanted using Fusion 360.

Hi Steve,
Can you tell us what you did to get Fusion to create usable code?
Did you alter the post process script?

Glen

[mrwildbob]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the advice in this thread. Finally got the controller to do what I wanted using Fusion 360.

Does anyone know if there is a guide on how to setup the post processor and its settings? Been machining for many years but CNC is still too new for me. Thanks in advance.

boB

[Biggyboy]

Hi to all!
I'm new here and would like to have some help from you please.
I have installed the SMC5-5-N-N Controller on my benchtop Milling MAchine.
I could set the Hybrid motors running fine as well as the soft limits and the homing function with. I also could get the MPG working fine.
I could not find a place to set up the BACKLASH compensation. Does this controller have a backlash feature?
Anyone here knows where to find a Firmware update to download?
On this video (https://youtu.be/NBaUlAcllD4) I observed that he has a more recent version and the screen buttons are different (more coherent names).
The controller is very good with many resources but The manual is very poor with "Chinglish" almost useless!

Thank you in advance for your help.

Edi

Hi the latest firmware has backlash settings and G53

[Biggyboy]

Hi Guys the latest firmware contains backlash settings and G53
I have mine running with the sample code that came with the controller, but my Mach3 postprocessor TAP files are a bit erratic.
I'm working on getting the code figured out. A guy that responded to a you tube video has been very helpful with setup and code info.
tomorrow ill be trying out some new G code to see if I can get it to run well with my files postprocessed with fusion 360 using either mach3 or linuxcnc as the setting in fusion for postprocessing.

The latest firmware that I got this morning Dec 6 2020 is firmware 2020-11-30

Glen

[larry104]

Hi Guys the latest firmware contains backlash settings and G53
I have mine running with the sample code that came with the controller, but my Mach3 postprocessor TAP files are a bit erratic.
I'm working on getting the code figured out. A guy that responded to a you tube video has been very helpful with setup and code info.
tomorrow ill be trying out some new G code to see if I can get it to run well with my files postprocessed with fusion 360 using either mach3 or linuxcnc as the setting in fusion for postprocessing.

The latest firmware that I got this morning Dec 6 2020 is firmware 2020-11-30

Glen

Hi Glen,

we might want to be a bit more systematic to find out which postprocessor might be the best for this controller and what changes have to be done to it so we get working G-Code. As I mentioned I currently have the controller disconnected and use linuxcnc. I send a request to get the latest firmware and they replied (without actually sending me the firmware):

There is a new firmware, but the updated functions are not many. 1. Double backup of data. Reduce internal flash memory error prompts.
2. Machine type 8, fixed the problem of negative numbers due to RTCP direction and pendulum length.
3. Newly added G53 mechanical coordinate rapid movement.

2020.12.8

So, I again requested that they send it to me. It's hard to debug something if we are not on the same firmware.

[Biggyboy]

Hi Glen,

we might want to be a bit more systematic to find out which postprocessor might be the best for this controller and what changes have to be done to it so we get working G-Code. As I mentioned I currently have the controller disconnected and use linuxcnc. I send a request to get the latest firmware and they replied (without actually sending me the firmware):

There is a new firmware, but the updated functions are not many. 1. Double backup of data. Reduce internal flash memory error prompts.
2. Machine type 8, fixed the problem of negative numbers due to RTCP direction and pendulum length.
3. Newly added G53 mechanical coordinate rapid movement.

2020.12.8

So, I again requested that they send it to me. It's hard to debug something if we are not on the same firmware.

Hey Larry,
thanks for commenting on this thread.
I did some more testing last night and it appears that after doing a g28 or aG53 move g0 G1 codes do not go back to material reference but still use the machine 0 reference. So a g54 or a g0 or g1 move don’t work off of the material datum (work co-ordinance ) I’m going to throw a g90 after the g28 or g53 and see if that fixes my problem.

So do they say the latest is 2020-12-8 because I notice when they send you an email they type in the send date near the bottom of the email that confusingly looks like it’s the firmware date.

Glen