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  1. #1
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    tool compensation

    Hi,

    I just bought a leadwell ltc 10ap cnc lathe. It uses fanuc series ot control. I am still learning how to use it. I am having a problem with the tool offsets when i am boring. the roughing cut works fine. I programmed it to leave 0.1mm on the face for finishing and 1mm on the diameter. I have measured after roughing. the size is right. The final cut bores 2mm bigger than the size in the program and cuts 0.4mm past the final length. if i dont use tool compensation it cuts the correct size. but it does not chamfer the edges. Where am i going wrong?

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    Re: tool compensation

    Sounds like tool position not set correctly.
    CNC Lathe Tool Nose Radius Compensation - CNC Training Centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by machinehop5 View Post
    Sounds like tool position not set correctly.
    CNC Lathe Tool Nose Radius Compensation - CNC Training Centre
    I watched the video in the link above. I changed the tool tip number to 2. And the radius value to 0.4mm. I did this on the geometry screen and the wear screen. But it is still not working. It is still doing the same thing on the last cut

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    Re: tool compensation

    Put up your code...
    ...my guess is you are using the wrong g-code for inside turning
    rear turret OD tool = G42
    rear turret ID tool = G41
    front turret OD tool = G41
    Radius is the nose radius of the tip... tool tip number is different for ID vs OD

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    Re: tool compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Superman View Post
    Put up your code...
    ...my guess is you are using the wrong g-code for inside turning
    rear turret OD tool = G42
    rear turret ID tool = G41
    front turret OD tool = G41
    Radius is the nose radius of the tip... tool tip number is different for ID vs OD
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    O0000
    (PROGRAM NAME - 77B0044)
    (DATE=DD-MM-YY - 04-04-19 TIME=HH:MM - 17:26)
    (MCX FILE - C:\USERS\USER\DOWNLOADS\77B0044.MCAM)
    (NC FILE - C:\USERS\USER\DOCUMENTS\MY MCAM2018\LATHE\NC\77B0044.NC)
    (MATERIAL - MILD STEEL MM - 2024)
    (TOOL - 6 OFFSET - 6)
    (OD ROUGH RIGHT - 80 DEG. INSERT - CNMG 12 04 04)
    G28 U0. V0. W0.
    T0606
    G0 X52. Z1. M8
    G50 S2500
    G96 S200 M03
    G72 W1. R.5
    G72 P100 Q110 U0. W.2 F.25
    N100 G0 G41 Z0. S200
    G1 X0.
    N110 G40 Z1.
    G0 X52.
    G0 X52. Z1.2
    G71 U1. R.5
    G71 P120 Q130 U1. W.2 F.25
    N120 G0 G42 X46. S275
    G1 Z-.094
    G3 X47. Z-.9 R.9
    G1 Z-42.5
    N130 G40 X52.
    G0 Z1.2
    M9
    G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    T0600
    M01
    (TOOL - 7 OFFSET - 7)
    (OD RIGHT 55 DEG INSERT - DNMG 15 06 04)
    G28 U0. V0. W0.
    T0707
    G0 X52. Z1. M8
    G50 S2500
    G96 S200 M03
    G70 P100 Q110
    G0 X52.
    Z1.2
    G70 P120 Q130
    G0 Z1.2
    M9
    G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    T0700
    M01
    (TOOL - 2 OFFSET - 2)
    (DRILL 20. DIA.)
    G28 U0. V0. W0.
    T0202
    G97 S1313 M03
    G0 X0. Z5. M8
    Z2.
    G1 Z-51.009 F.25
    G0 Z5.
    M9
    G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    T0200
    M01
    (TOOL - 11 OFFSET - 11)
    (ID ROUGH MIN. 20. DIA. - 80 DEG. INSERT - CCMT 09 T3 04)
    G28 U0. V0. W0.
    T1111
    G0 X18. Z1.25 M8
    G50 S2500
    G96 S200 M03
    Z1.
    G71 U1. R.5
    G71 P140 Q150 U-1. W.2 F.2
    N140 G0 G41 X36. S200
    G1 Z-.094
    G2 X35. Z-.9 R.9
    G1 Z-15.
    X31.055
    G2 X29.379 Z-15.572 R.9
    N150 G1 G40 X18.
    G0 Z1.
    Z1.25
    M9
    G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    T1100
    M01
    (TOOL - 9 OFFSET - 9)
    (ID FINISH MIN. 20. DIA. - 55 DEG. INSERT - DCMT 11 T3 04)
    G28 U0. V0. W0.
    T0909
    G0 X18. Z1.25 M8
    G50 S2500
    G96 S200 M03
    Z1.
    G70 P140 Q150 F.1
    G0 Z1.
    Z1.25
    M9
    G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    T0900
    M30
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    Re: tool compensation

    Is this handwritten Program or CAM post Processor genarated G Code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machinehop5 View Post
    Is this handwritten Program or CAM post Processor genarated G Code?
    I used mastercam to generate the code. Then I punch it manually into the machine

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    Re: tool compensation

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    O0000
    (PROGRAM NAME - 77B0044)
    (DATE=DD-MM-YY - 04-04-19 TIME=HH:MM - 17:26)
    (MCX FILE - C:\USERS\USER\DOWNLOADS\77B0044.MCAM)
    (NC FILE - C:\USERS\USER\DOCUMENTS\MY MCAM2018\LATHE\NC\77B0044.NC)
    (MATERIAL - MILD STEEL MM - 2024)
    N10 G21
    (TOOL - 1 OFFSET - 1)
    (OD ROUGH RIGHT - 80 DEG. INSERT - CNMG 12 04 04)
    N20 G28 U0. V0. W0.
    N30 G50 X250. Y0. Z250.
    N40 G0 T0101
    N50 G18
    N60 G97 S1683 M03
    N70 G0 X52. Z1. M8
    N80 G50 S2500
    N90 G96 S200
    N100 G72 W1. R.5
    N110 G72 P100 Q110 U0. W.2 F.25
    N120 N10 G0 G41 Z0. S200
    N130 G1 X0.
    N140 N20 G40 Z1.
    N150 G0 X52.
    N160 G0 X52. Z1.2
    N170 G71 U1. R.5
    N180 G71 P120 Q130 U1. W.2 F.25
    N190 N30 G0 G42 X46. S275
    N200 G1 Z-.094
    N210 G3 X47. Z-.9 R.9
    N220 G1 Z-42.5
    N230 N40 G40 X52.
    N240 G0 Z1.2
    N250 M9
    N260 G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    N270 T0100
    N280 M01
    (TOOL - 12 OFFSET - 12)
    (OD RIGHT 55 DEG INSERT - DNMG 15 06 04)
    N290 G28 U0. V0. W0.
    N300 G50 X250. Y0. Z250.
    N310 G0 T1212
    N320 G18
    N330 G97 S2500 M03
    N340 G0 X52. Z1. M8
    N350 G50 S2500
    N360 G96 S200
    N370 G70 P100 Q110
    N380 G0 X52.
    N390 Z1.2
    N400 G70 P120 Q130
    N410 G0 Z1.2
    N420 M9
    N430 G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    N440 T1200
    N450 M01
    (TOOL - 126 OFFSET - 126)
    (DRILL 20. DIA.)
    N460 G28 U0. V0. W0.
    N470 G50 X250. Y0. Z250.
    N480 G0 T12726
    N490 G18
    N500 G97 S1313 M03
    N510 G0 X0. Z5. M8
    N520 Z2.
    N530 G1 Z-51.009 F.25
    N540 G0 Z5.
    N550 M9
    N560 G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    N570 T12600
    N580 M01
    (TOOL - 72 OFFSET - 72)
    (ID ROUGH MIN. 20. DIA. - 80 DEG. INSERT - CCMT 09 T3 04)
    N590 G28 U0. V0. W0.
    N600 G50 X250. Y0. Z250.
    N610 G0 T7272
    N620 G18
    N630 G97 S3600 M03
    N640 G0 X18. Z1.25 M8
    N650 G50 S2500
    N660 G96 S200
    N670 Z1.
    N680 G71 U1. R.5
    N690 G71 P140 Q150 U-1. W.2 F.2
    N700 N50 G0 G41 X36. S200
    N710 G1 Z-.094
    N720 G2 X35. Z-.9 R.9
    N730 G1 Z-15.
    N740 X31.055
    N750 G2 X29.379 Z-15.572 R.9
    N760 N60 G1 G40 X18.
    N770 G0 Z1.
    N780 Z1.25
    N790 M9
    N800 G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    N810 T7200
    N820 M01
    (TOOL - 82 OFFSET - 82)
    (ID FINISH MIN. 20. DIA. - 55 DEG. INSERT - DCMT 11 T3 04)
    N830 G28 U0. V0. W0.
    N840 G50 X250. Y0. Z250.
    N850 G0 T8282
    N860 G18
    N870 G97 S2500 M03
    N880 G0 X18. Z1.25 M8
    N890 G50 S2500
    N900 G96 S200
    N910 Z1.
    N920 G70 P140 Q150 F.1
    N930 G0 Z1.
    N940 Z1.25
    N950 M9
    N960 G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
    N970 T8200
    N980 M30
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    Re: tool compensation

    missing minus sign (-) first thing check for...


    PS ...RS232 Cable soon in your future

    DJ

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    Re: tool compensation

    It’s working now. Thanks. I had left out a minus sign when I punched it in the machine and I had the wrong number for the tool tip in the offset screen. I bought a rs232 cable. But I think the pin configuration was wrong. I’m getting one made up with the correct configuration. It should be ready in a few days. Thanks for the help. In really appreciate it

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    Re: tool compensation

    Machinehop5.... your renumbering has just stuffed the program
    .... it uses P & Qs which are the start and finish profiles for the roughing & finishing cycles..... the original format was ideal & much simpler to follow

    Asheen..... why use cutter comp ?
    .... it can complicate a simple program, as it can be easier to control sizes by altering offset values
    .... Mcam can output "long" code ( no cycles ) that would suit your chosen tip radius.... change tip rad = repost Mcan with correct tool geometry
    .... cutter comp should only be used for larger tip rads on larger radii & tapers... comp really messes up if you don't use sufficient retract clearances

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    Re: tool compensation

    You do not need V0 in G28 on a 2-axis machine. I was expecting that it would throw an alarm.

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    Re: tool compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Superman View Post
    Machinehop5.... your renumbering has just stuffed the program
    Maybe stuffed....but when discussing a Program how the hell do you know which Line someone is talking about. Bonehead reply Superdude

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    Re: tool compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Asheen View Post
    It’s working now. Thanks. I had left out a minus sign when I punched it in the machine and I had the wrong number for the tool tip in the offset screen. I bought a rs232 cable. But I think the pin configuration was wrong. I’m getting one made up with the correct configuration. It should be ready in a few days. Thanks for the help. In really appreciate it
    Great to hear was something simple. Thanks for follow up.

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