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  1. #61
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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by adam_m View Post
    Just my two cents here, without reading the entire thread but if it's loosing steps which is what your last photo looks like to me, it may be the driver for the axis. The reason I say this is that because I have a G540 and for a similar reason my Z kept loosing steps and ultimately it turned out to be a faulty driver causing the issue.

    Is there a way you can swap the axis drivers, cables, steppers for comparison to each other?

    Adam,
    I’m not sure what you mean about swapping.
    Do you mean disconnect the boards in the controller box?
    I’ll tell you what, I do remember a while back, I had a problem and I jiggled the big protective tube the cables are in and it worked. So now you got me thinking I may have a frayed cable.
    That’s good direction.
    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    I’m not sure what you mean about swapping.
    Do you mean disconnect the boards in the controller box?
    I’ll tell you what, I do remember a while back, I had a problem and I jiggled the big protective tube the cables are in and it worked. So now you got me thinking I may have a frayed cable.
    That’s good direction.
    Thanks


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    Swapping just means to use a particular componend in a different x-axis position and see if the bad behavior exists in the new poistion after the swap. If the problem moves when you've moved (i.e. swapped) the component, then the component you've moved is faulty.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    Swapping just means to use a particular componend in a different x-axis position and see if the bad behavior exists in the new poistion after the swap. If the problem moves when you've moved (i.e. swapped) the component, then the component you've moved is faulty.
    Component?
    Different program


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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    Component?
    Different program
    Component could mean a few things to me.
    Different tool
    Different program
    So I’m not sure what your saying.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
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    Swap parts (exchange) around to a different X is now Y and etc.. Your planning to teach?
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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    Component?
    Different program
    Component could mean a few things to me.
    Different tool
    Different program
    Yes, a tool or a few other things like a driver or a stepper are all components of the machine.

    You swap them with another to trouble shoot an issue.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by wmgeorge View Post
    Swap parts (exchange) around to a different X is now Y and etc.. Your planning to teach?
    Here’s a problem.
    28’ radius into a 22” diameter circle.
    How deep will that make the dish?
    You have 10 seconds.
    Start ..... now


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    Component?
    Different program


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    Component? Um, electrical parts that make up the machine? Move them around to see if you get a different result. You know, like basic troubleshooting?

    trou·ble·shoot

    [?tr?b?l?SHo?ot]

    VERB

    troubleshooting*(present participle)

    solve serious problems for a company or other organization.

    trace and correct faults in a mechanical or electronic system.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    Component? Um, electrical parts that make up the machine? Move them around to see if you get a different result. You know, like basic troubleshooting?

    trou·ble·shoot

    [?tr?b?l?SHo?ot]

    VERB

    troubleshooting*(present participle)

    solve serious problems for a company or other organization.

    trace and correct faults in a mechanical or electronic system.
    So first thing I’m going to do is retire the motors.
    Years ago I had a motor that didn’t work, then I giggled the long protective shield on the wires and bam! It worked.
    I bet that’s it.
    After that I’ll try changing drivers.
    And so on and so forth.
    Thanks for your help.


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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    2.25 inches, wrong yes I see that error now. Peter hard to see " vs ' sometimes.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails dish.jpg  

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by peteeng View Post
    2.25 inches
    I believe the entirely spurious challenge involved a 28 foot radius.The OP has a rather individual way of asking for advice and then acting on it.I have to wonder if there are other background issues of some sort.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    [QUOTE=peteeng;2302786]2.25 inches[/QUO]

    .1801 is the correct answer.
    28’ radius in a 22” wide dish what us the depth or height.

    This was directed a a contributor with an amazing snarky attitude.
    He said to me... “and you’re going to teach”?
    Eh wm....?


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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    wm.... is a very valuable contributor to this forum.

    The fact that you know the answer to a question you asked yourself does not necessarily mean much.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    When I was teaching I knew what I was doing. I taught my students troubleshooting and how to swap out parts if needed to solve a problem. They now have jobs in the real world, some of them are darn good, better than the teacher!
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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    wm.... is a very valuable contributor to this forum.

    The fact that you know the answer to a question you asked yourself does not necessarily mean much.
    The oddity is he insults me for being a teacher?
    The beauty is ... I’m trying to teach boys in jail an honest option to dealing heroin.
    This will be the way.
    I just purchased Vetric Aspire.1995
    “. “. “. 2 MACH 3......... 350
    Various parts for my build totaling $4700
    I’m pretty committed to my calling.
    I don’t need tounge in cheek, snide remarks.
    Just help.
    Isn’t that what this site is for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    I don’t need tounge in cheek, snide remarks.
    Just help.
    Isn’t that what this site is for?
    I'm not an expert here but have a fair amount of time answering questions on an unrelated programming forum.

    One of the most frustrating things in attempting to help someone is when the person asking for help doesn't follow the help they are given. After seeing an op repeatedly ignore advice, it becomes difficult to keep the snark out of the responses.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    I'm not an expert here but have a fair amount of time answering questions on an unrelated programming forum.

    One of the most frustrating things in attempting to help someone is when the person asking for help doesn't follow the help they are given. After seeing an op repeatedly ignore advice, it becomes difficult to keep the snark out of the responses.
    How do you know what was followed


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    How do you know what was followed?
    If advice was followed it would be helpful to indicated as much in the replies, don't you think?

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    And having successfully taught for a number of years (12) and starting a computer lab for my own students I had to use hand me down computers that came from the CAD lab with Zero software. I installed legal copies of AutoCAD LT on all 20. You will soon find your one legal copy of Aspire and one computer is not going to work for 10 students.

    PS There is a much greater need for machinists and welders than someone who can run a CNC router. They could be taught to weld in a few weeks of classes.
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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by wmgeorge View Post
    And having successfully taught for a number of years (12) and starting a computer lab for my own students I had to use hand me down computers that came from the CAD lab with Zero software. I installed legal copies of AutoCAD LT on all 20. You will soon find your one legal copy of Aspire and one computer is not going to work for 10 students.

    PS There is a much greater need for machinists and welders than someone who can run a CNC router. They could be taught to weld in a few weeks of classes.
    The Vetric Aspire license at $1995.00 includes 40 seats.

    I’m sure you don’t know anything about my program.
    The boys are court ordered. It is a 24/7 facility with sentences in the range of 6-18 months.
    Reading and math levels for these high school age boys are around 3-4th grade. Most if not all have traumatic related injuries, both mental and some physical (or abuse). Most are on meds for ADD and other physiological issues
    So, in order to “hook” them, we need quick positive reinforcement.
    Welding is one of those programs I teach that gives them the quick hit.
    But, the CNC work, designing a simple box or rubber band power car, is exactly that! A quick hit.
    Most of these boys sell or do drugs or both!
    So the issues we have to juggle are sometimes overwhelming.
    I give any other “shop teacher” a week with these boys and they’ll crumble.
    It’s not easy, but out of 140 we may get 5 to go on to college or trade school.
    Hope the insight helps your understanding of another world many will never venture into.


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