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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    wm.... is a very valuable contributor to this forum.

    The fact that you know the answer to a question you asked yourself does not necessarily mean much.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    When I was teaching I knew what I was doing. I taught my students troubleshooting and how to swap out parts if needed to solve a problem. They now have jobs in the real world, some of them are darn good, better than the teacher!
    Retired Master Electrician, HVAC/R Commercial. FLA Saturn 2 4x4 CNC Router

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    wm.... is a very valuable contributor to this forum.

    The fact that you know the answer to a question you asked yourself does not necessarily mean much.
    The oddity is he insults me for being a teacher?
    The beauty is ... I’m trying to teach boys in jail an honest option to dealing heroin.
    This will be the way.
    I just purchased Vetric Aspire.1995
    “. “. “. 2 MACH 3......... 350
    Various parts for my build totaling $4700
    I’m pretty committed to my calling.
    I don’t need tounge in cheek, snide remarks.
    Just help.
    Isn’t that what this site is for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    I don’t need tounge in cheek, snide remarks.
    Just help.
    Isn’t that what this site is for?
    I'm not an expert here but have a fair amount of time answering questions on an unrelated programming forum.

    One of the most frustrating things in attempting to help someone is when the person asking for help doesn't follow the help they are given. After seeing an op repeatedly ignore advice, it becomes difficult to keep the snark out of the responses.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    I'm not an expert here but have a fair amount of time answering questions on an unrelated programming forum.

    One of the most frustrating things in attempting to help someone is when the person asking for help doesn't follow the help they are given. After seeing an op repeatedly ignore advice, it becomes difficult to keep the snark out of the responses.
    How do you know what was followed


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    How do you know what was followed?
    If advice was followed it would be helpful to indicated as much in the replies, don't you think?

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    And having successfully taught for a number of years (12) and starting a computer lab for my own students I had to use hand me down computers that came from the CAD lab with Zero software. I installed legal copies of AutoCAD LT on all 20. You will soon find your one legal copy of Aspire and one computer is not going to work for 10 students.

    PS There is a much greater need for machinists and welders than someone who can run a CNC router. They could be taught to weld in a few weeks of classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgeorge View Post
    And having successfully taught for a number of years (12) and starting a computer lab for my own students I had to use hand me down computers that came from the CAD lab with Zero software. I installed legal copies of AutoCAD LT on all 20. You will soon find your one legal copy of Aspire and one computer is not going to work for 10 students.

    PS There is a much greater need for machinists and welders than someone who can run a CNC router. They could be taught to weld in a few weeks of classes.
    The Vetric Aspire license at $1995.00 includes 40 seats.

    I’m sure you don’t know anything about my program.
    The boys are court ordered. It is a 24/7 facility with sentences in the range of 6-18 months.
    Reading and math levels for these high school age boys are around 3-4th grade. Most if not all have traumatic related injuries, both mental and some physical (or abuse). Most are on meds for ADD and other physiological issues
    So, in order to “hook” them, we need quick positive reinforcement.
    Welding is one of those programs I teach that gives them the quick hit.
    But, the CNC work, designing a simple box or rubber band power car, is exactly that! A quick hit.
    Most of these boys sell or do drugs or both!
    So the issues we have to juggle are sometimes overwhelming.
    I give any other “shop teacher” a week with these boys and they’ll crumble.
    It’s not easy, but out of 140 we may get 5 to go on to college or trade school.
    Hope the insight helps your understanding of another world many will never venture into.


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    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    The Vetric Aspire license at $1995.00 includes 40 seats.

    I’m sure you don’t know anything about my program.
    The boys are court ordered. It is a 24/7 facility with sentences in the range of 6-18 months.
    Reading and math levels for these high school age boys are around 3-4th grade. Most if not all have traumatic related injuries, both mental and some physical (or abuse). Most are on meds for ADD and other physiological issues
    So, in order to “hook” them, we need quick positive reinforcement.
    Welding is one of those programs I teach that gives them the quick hit.
    But, the CNC work, designing a simple box or rubber band power car, is exactly that! A quick hit.
    Most of these boys sell or do drugs or both!
    So the issues we have to juggle are sometimes overwhelming.
    I give any other “shop teacher” a week with these boys and they’ll crumble.
    It’s not easy, but out of 140 we may get 5 to go on to college or trade school.
    Hope the insight helps your understanding of another world many will never venture into.


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    Great work, man. Hopefully you've grown as well and have learned how to post and interact in a public forum.

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Yes I had paroled students and disadvantaged students also.

    My very best was watching ADD students who had problems learning from a book or passing a test excel at troubleshooting and repair. People do not understand why black students drop out and fail at jobs or are un-employed. I had one who told me when he was going to school the white side of town got new books, the ten year old worn out books went to the black schools. He was a special needs student and got zero help while the other side of town the white kids got put in special classes. Regardless he learned and got through my program and get a job.

    So they drop out of school, can't get a job because of no HS diploma. So what else is left to do, hang out do drugs and sell drugs. Give these young folks a education not a check because 150 years ago their great great grandparents were slaves.

    Yes, maybe you missed the part where I taught for 12 years, in the trade I knew about. My students got jobs, If they wanted to work.
    Retired Master Electrician, HVAC/R Commercial. FLA Saturn 2 4x4 CNC Router

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    It’s not easy, but out of 140 we may get 5 to go on to college or trade school.
    Just one is a win; five is excellent.

    Could you get any of the 'graduates' to come back for an hour to talk to the kids in the classes? A role model.

    Cheers
    Roger

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    Re: Vetric Aspire nose dive on Z Axis

    Quote Originally Posted by robwiacek View Post
    How do you know what was followed


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    I believe I found the problem.
    I slowed down the feed rate after feeling the motor on the X axis was getting too warm.
    I also paused the program in thirds to maintain a reasonable temperature.
    This worked.
    Sometimes hands on is the best method in problem solving.
    I thank ME for the help and all of YOU for guidance.


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