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    Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    I have a little problem this morning, seeking help.

    My 770 has been "asleep" for about two weeks, and now she won't wake up.
    I turned on the Computer Power switch on the front panel, but the Screen is stuck on the TORMACH Logo screen.
    The PC Tower green light is on, but the small red light is off, and the red Computer light on the front panel is also off.
    Software isn't loading?

    I tried shutting it down, waiting, then restarted it.... No luck.
    Screen is still stuck on the TORMACH Logo.
    Pathpilot won't load.
    HELP!!

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    I hit the F2 button, and got this:
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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    looks like crashy time for the hard disk. prolly have to reinstall

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Honestly, you might need to put in a new hard drive, and THEN re-install.
    Tormach doesn't make it very easy, because they ship the drive pre-installed.
    Perhaps you can buy the $20 USB "upgrade" to get an image to install off of? (Although I don't know if this requires a 1.9 image to get going.)

    Btw: Are there copyrighted files (not under GPL/MIT/etc) in the intalled PathPilot system? Or would it be okay for someone to make an image of a working installation, and put it up for download somewhere?

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Fixed it!
    I had to manually type in.. fsck
    That re-booted the hard drive.
    Everything's working now.

    Apparently it's a common hard drive error caused by shutting down the computer incorrectly?
    A Linux issue?
    Funny, because I always use the same protocol for shutting down the PC. (Exit, E-Stop, Shut-Down, then Power switch off.. as recommended)

    Maybe I should just leave the PC on for good, from now on.

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Quote Originally Posted by RussMachine View Post
    Fixed it!
    I had to manually type in.. fsck
    That re-booted the hard drive.
    Everything's working now.

    Apparently it's a common hard drive error caused by shutting down the computer incorrectly?
    A Linux issue?
    Funny, because I always use the same protocol for shutting down the PC. (Exit, E-Stop, Shut-Down, then Power switch off.. as recommended)

    Maybe I should just leave the PC on for good, from now on.
    The error suggests that your TOD clock forgot the time (your CMOS battery is bad/marginal on your PC so 2 weeks load on the battery made the TOD chip forget the time)

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Linux file systems generally are robust against turning off the power whenever. Just like modern Windows (NTFS) but unlike USB sticks and old windows (FAT.)
    Having to run "fsck" is not normal for booting, even if you turned off the power "hard" before that. Something "bad" happened to cause that to be required. It may be that that "bad" thing won't come back, and you'll be fine, but if it happens again, you might want to look into what it is, because you will be losing data at some point.

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Simple. Don't enable the Sleep Mode. Shut the computer down 100% or leave it on 100% (not connected to the internet).

    Linux is not the cure all for every user mistake. I have been using and building computers since 1980 or so. Tried Linux a couple times, but the programs I Need to use are either Apple or PC based.
    Retired Master Electrician, HVAC/R Commercial. FLA Saturn 2 4x4 CNC Router

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    Well, I took the controller to my local computer repair guy to replace the CMOS battery and update the TOD clock, as well as backup the hard drive.
    I tried getting to the battery myself, but in this controller it is a royal PAIN IN THE ASS to get to it! So I decided to let the pro work on it.
    Bad news = the CMOS battery is a 2-Prong gimmick, and it has to be ordered.
    Looks like my mill will be down for another week.

    Maybe I should just buy a brand-new controller with all of the latest Bells & Whistles?
    That's my next move if this fix-it job doesn't work. :devious:

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    That's the trouble with manufacturer official, properly made equipment. There's stitch-ups all over them so you have to go to them for overpriced spares and not cheaper 3rd party.

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    Re: Computer won't wake up. GGrrrr...

    I find the computer on mine to be a fairly standard low-cost PC.
    The "two prong battery" is used in a variety of OEM motherboards. (There's several kinds, either fixed on the motherboard or even using a small wire welded to the battery ...)
    Personally, I'd just bust out the soldering iron and have that taken care of, but that's of course a personal preference and willingness to much with the computery bits :-)

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