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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    If you want 3D plotting and a decent GUI, there is bCNC, written in Python and runs on Win and Lin platforms.
    Of course, GRBL as a CNC external controller.
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    @Zasto, thanks. If I'm going with a computer based app I would rather stick with Mach.

    So I'm sure I've decided, but here's the breakdown so far.

    Mach 4, know it well, with Pokeys, which I know extremely well.

    Pros: Works
    Easy to use, not setup but use.
    Can always switch it to a new computer if the old one craps outs.
    TONS of support.
    You can do anything with it! You can add anything you want!
    I know exactly what I'm going to get.

    Cons: Have to use a bulky PC
    Sometimes you'll have problems with windows. Honestly, I haven't had much problems with it.

    Masso: Pros: Stand alone

    Cons: Seems somewhat proprietary in regards to what you can connect, maybe. Didn't do a lot of research.
    Not very much support online and very little mentions of it anywhere and when it is mentioned it's a few years old.

    Stand Alone dedicated CNC Controller such as Tomatech: Pros: Stand Alone with screen and buttons.
    Seems great and probably is plug and play, for the most part.

    Cons: Support, not even a manual on their website.
    Very few mentions of it online.
    You don't know what you're going to get or what you can do with it.

    GRBL, UCCNC, LinuxCNC: Pros Don't know never used them.

    Cons: I've never used them. LOL. I have no problem with Mach as far as the way it works or what you can do with it. I just don't want the PC or windows problems.

    SO I guess I have made a decision. I'll stick with Mach for the simple reason I like it and know exactly what it can do and I've never run into a problem with it I couldn't solve. I even converted my 1978 Mori Seiki Lathe to Mach 4 and all new electronics. Even figured out how to MODBUS to the PLC running the Tool Changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartierusm View Post
    What's the deal with the stand alone CNC controllers? I assume they just plug and play and use their own proprietary software? Also, can they do full 3 axis simultaneous machining and run g-code?

    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...ontrol-system/
    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...lathe-milling/
    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...nt-hand-wheel/
    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...ontrol-system/
    There are a lot of options, normally they are NC based CNC controller, with build-in software inside, they can do full 3 axis simultaneous machining, or 4 axis or 5 axis and run G-code, just similar to Fanuc CNC.
    http://cncmakers.com/cnc/controllers/CNC_Controller_System/CNC_Retrofit_Package.html

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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    Cons: Have to use a bulky PC
    This link should have been in my earlier post.
    Most people are switching to these mini PC's, that fit in your hand. No need for a big bulky PC.



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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    @ger21, thanks. Yes, I thought your post earlier didn't make too much sense, but then again I don't LOL.

    That's a great option. Price is not bad. The refurbished computer I was looking at was $100.

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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    $150 for mini PC with "activated" Windows 10 pro. If that's legit Microsoft must be practically gifting them activation keys.

    The Chinese manufacturers of those offline controls could dominate the diy market if they worked on customer service ...at all.
    It seems the rebranders and resellers care only about getting the sale.
    Anyone who says "It only goes together one way" has no imagination.

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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    @cyclestart, you are correct, but from the same perspective look at Mach. I mean if they just spent a day with their engineers and wrote a manual that's worth a dam then they would be even better. I mean after setting up a Plasma Cutter with Mach 4 they don't even fully explain what all the controls are. I mean really??

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    Re: Machine Control Besides Mach and LinuxCNC with stand alone controller.

    Hi,
    I think Cartierusm's criticism is fair, Mach4's documentation is poor....or not so much poor but out of date. It is a recurring criticism of Mach4.

    The truth is that Mach4 is developed by a small handful of people, and there is not the budget or the time to engage a technical document writer to
    keep up with new developments. Cartierusm will probably admit that Mach4 IS progressing and coming out with new features thick and fast.

    The near new script based THC feature is a perfect example. It's released and it works BUT there is incomplete documentation. If you waited
    UNTIL the documentation was ready to support the new feature then the release would be delayed by months at least......so you can have a new
    feature but incompletely documented or wait and wait and wait....for the feature supported by documentation. NFS have decided to release the
    feature and be damned.

    I understand their dilemma and would probably choose as they have if I were called on to make the decision.....not ideal but the feature is released
    and quite frankly the new Mach4 features are blowing their competition into the weeds!

    Craig

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