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  1. #21
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hi kitten
    No, does not work
    I turned to the Okuma dealer
    They are thinking how to help me.
    Waiting for an answer from them
    I think the problem is in MSB files
    I will inform you how to solve the problem

  2. #22
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    check this app : https://www.myokuma.com/renishaw-set-and-inspect

    requires api, .net, macros ( maybe your msbs are ok ); if you have api, then it may be possible to install that app

    it seems to handle your setter, laser types, probes; there is also a conversational designed for probing ( that conversational is simply chaining those msbs )

    for more infos, on that page is the developer e-mail, and a pdf ... maybe, arround you is also a local renishaw dealer

    https://www.renishaw.com/en/set-and-inspect--33012

    youtube "Renishaw Set and Inspect" / kindly
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  3. #23
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hi kitten.
    Thanks for the info.
    I will study her.
    Maybe this information will help me.
    In June our company buys a machine with a measuring system Hexagon
    I will study and compare it with Renishaw

  4. #24
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hello everyone
    As promised, I make a report.
    The radius measurement program started working after installing a new software on the machine.
    But the calibration of the sensor and the measurement of the radius of the tool occurs in only one direction minus.

  5. #25
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hello everyone
    As promised, I make a report.
    The radius measurement program started working after installing a new software on the machine.
    But the calibration of the sensor and the measurement of the radius of the tool occurs in only one direction Y minus.
    calibration
    (VFST=#83H)
    (PLI -length PY - radius)
    N1 S200 M4
    G56H99 (H - tool number)
    M653
    M127
    N2 CALL OO30 PAXI=#17H PLI=150.02 PY=14.993 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    M127
    N3 M30
    M02

    Measurement
    (Before measuring, measure the length of the tool)
    (length corrector to be determined)
    (VC4 = approximate tool radius)
    (VC5 = the shift in the Z axis below the sensor)(3mm)
    (VC6 = offset "Y" VC4+8)(Where "8" - radius stilys)

    G56H99
    N10 S200 M4
    VC5=3
    VC4=14.993
    M653 (channel selection Touch Setter RTS)
    M127 (ON Touch Setter RTS)
    VC6=VC4+8
    N20 CALL OO30 VFST=#83H PZ=VC5 PY=VC6 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    M127
    N30 M30
    M02

  6. #26
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    the radius measurement program started working after installing a new software on the machine
    hy sergey, please, what software did you installed ?

    only one direction
    i guess that is possible to use also the other direction, by messing with the msbs ... do you need both directions ?


    i don't like those codes that have been given to you ... i mean they work, but not as described inside the manuals, and also they have extra codes :
    ... some spindles can not move/feed with 0 rpm, but okumas can handle that
    ... using rpm<>0 should be done for measuring finishing tools, that work at high rpms, and are expected to output a certain accuracy level; or for roughing tools, with big diameters, in order to detect the "lower profile" insert
    ... N30 M30 + M02 ?!
    ... in most cases G56H99 should be replaced with G56HA or G56H=system_variable
    ... when a touch setter is involved, G56H* is useless; why would someone activate the offset, if he wishes to calibrate the senzor, or to measure the offset ?
    ... using common variables may lead to potential conflicts with other parametric codes
    ... it uses N1,N2,N3, respectively N10 N20 N30 for no reason at all
    ... VC4=14.993 : use DA, or enlarge clearance distance during measuring
    ... replace vc5=3 an pz=vc5 with pz=3
    etc

    however, if it works, it works / kindly
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  7. #27
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hey
    Yes it worked.
    Dealers sent new software and MSB files.
    But calibration is only on the axis "Y", and only in one direction.a plus Y
    In the same direction, I measured the test bar OK!
    calibration.MIN
    (VFST=#83H)
    (PLI -length PX -radius )
    N1 S200 M4
    G56H99
    (M653)
    (M127)
    N2 CALL OO30 PAXI=#17H PLI=150.02 PY=14.993 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    (M127)
    N3 M30
    M02

    RADIUS-INST.MIN
    (VC4 = radius)
    (VC5 = offset Z)
    (VC6 = offset "Y" VC4+8)(8-radius stylus)
    G56H99
    N10 S200 M4
    M653
    M127
    VC6=VC4+8
    (N20 CALL OO30 VFST=#83H PZ=-VC5 PY=VC6 PNOR=1 PAPD=1)
    N20 CALL OO30 VFST=#83H PZ=1 PY=38 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    N21 G0 Z1000
    M127
    N30 M30
    M02

  8. #28
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    Re: Genos M460V-5AX + Renishaw RTS (RMP-60 RMi-Q)

    Hey.
    Yes it worked.
    Dealers sent new software and MSB files.
    But calibration is only on the "Y" axis, and only in one direction.a plus
    In the same direction, I measured the test bar OK!
    only RTS
    calibration.MIN
    (VFST=#83H)
    (PLI -length PX -radius )
    N1 S200 M4
    G56H99
    M653
    M127
    N2 CALL OO30 PAXI=#17H PLI=150.02 PY=14.993 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    M127
    N3 M30
    M02

    (VC4 = radius)
    (VC5 = offset Z)
    (VC6 = offset "Y" VC4+8)(8-radius stylus)

    RADIUS-INST.MIN
    G56H99
    N10 S200 M4
    M653
    M127
    VC6=VC4+8
    (N20 CALL OO30 VFST=#83H PZ=-VC5 PX=VC6 PNOR=1 PAPD=1)
    N20 CALL OO30 VFST=#83H PZ=2 PY=38 PNOR=1 PAPD=1
    N21 G0 Z1000
    M127
    N30 M30
    M02

    .
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