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  1. #1
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    Fanuc system 3T F error

    Hi sir ,

    I am nishil Patel from Vancouver Canada .

    I have Nakamura tome make methods slant 1 turning centre lathe machine having a control 3T F .

    The problem is when i sending a program from computer it shows P/S alarm : 086

    following are the setting of the machine parameter
    parameter 1 : - 10111010 (Bit 4=I/O ,bit 1 = ISO , BIT 0= TV CHECK )
    PARAMETER 5 BIT 0 = 0
    PARAMETER 14 BIT 0 =0
    PARAMETER 68 = 4800 (BAUD RATE)
    PARAMETER 69 = 4800 (BAUD RATE )

    FOLLOWING ARE THE COMPUTER SETTING : -

    BAUD RATE = 4800
    DATA BITS = 7
    ASCII = EVEN
    STOP BITS = 1
    HAND SHAKE = X ON/X OFF
    PORT TYPE = STANDARD

    CONNECTOR DETAILS OF THE 25 PIN D TYPE MALE CONNECTOR(DB 25 CNC ) AT MACHINE SIDE FROM FANUC SYSTEM 3T F AT MASTER PCB DOOR
    1= SHIELD
    2=RED ( TRANSMIT DATA)
    3 GREEN (RECEIVE DATA)
    4 & 5 SHORTED (5 IS FOR CTS AND 4 IS FOR RTS)
    6= BLUE
    7 = WHITE (MAY BE SIGNAL GROUND )
    8 & 20 SHORTED (8 IS FOR DCD AND 20 IS FOR DTR )

    NOW THE PROBLEM IS I AM USING WINDOWS 10 COMPUTER HAVING A GIBBS CAM SOFTWARE WITH IT AND I AM USING ONE USB TO 9 PIN CONVERTER AND 9 PIN CONVERTER TO 25 PIN D TYPE CONNECTOR WHICH IS DIRECTLY GOING IN TO THE MACHINE DB 25 PIN MALE CONNECTOR , IN SHORT
    USB>9 PIN D TYPE CONNECTOR >25 PIN D TYPE CONNECTOR >25 PIN D TYPE MALE CONNECTOR OF THE MACHINE .
    WHEN I SELECT EDIT MODE AND SEND PROGRAM WITH STARTIG O00001 AND PRESS INPUT , 086 ERROR CAME .
    SIR ,
    PLEASE HELP ME TO RECTIFY THE ISSUE...

    NISHIL (ZONE 7)

  2. #2
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    Zone7,
    if 086 comes on instantly when trying in/out it may be mis-configured cable termination at control DB25.
    With XON/XOFF pins 4 - 5 must be shorted and separately 6 - 8 - 20 should be shorted together.

    HTH

  3. #3
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    25-pin Fanuc ------ 9-pin PC
    pin 2 -------------- pin 2
    pin 3 -------------- pin 3
    pin 5 -------------- pin 7
    pin 7 -------------- pin 5
    pins 6 & 8 --------- pin 4

    (no 6-8-20 jumper needed on this cable)

    try this cable connections.

  4. #4
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    Phucrobusl, zone7
    The setup is using "flow control" Xon/Xoff. Why have more wires involved that you have to? finding a PC that will do hardware control THROUGH an adapter is going to be difficult, nowadays.
    Why make it difficult? 3 wires, Xon/Xoff. Simple.

  5. #5
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    My P.M.s were not working so here is what I answered.
    The 25pin D socket end should have RX & TX on 2 & 3 and 7 is common the following are shorted, 4-5 , 6-8-20.
    The 086 error I believe is the RS232 IC's bad, I have the number of them if you need.
    Max.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

  6. #6
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    The DR (Data Set Ready) signal goes to a 75189A IC. May be the same IC as the RD (Receive Data) signal or not.
    Need the 3TF schematics to verify. The 3 "F" controls may have a separate reader/puncher board similar to the 10 series.
    75189 receive, 75189 send

  7. #7
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    Typically used to replace is MC1488 Driver and MC1489 reviever.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    i have FS-3M Schematics & checked if your MASTERBORD A16B-1000-0010 ic loaction B8 75189A & B9 75188 is for RS232 communication. sorry for openly post picture on forum if anyone needed picture i can send in PM.

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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    Quote Originally Posted by phucrobusl View Post
    i B8 75189A & B9 75188 is for RS232 communication..
    Yes, we used the MC versions as we had those in stock.
    Often cured the 086 fault which is not listed in the alarm list.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

  10. #10
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    Re: Fanuc system 3T F error

    hi ,
    i have checked the continuity and found
    25-pin Fanuc ------ 9-pin PC
    pin 2 -------------- pin 2 ok
    pin 3 -------------- pin 3 ok
    pin 5 -------------- pin 7 not came
    pin 7 -------------- pin 5 ok
    pins 6 & 8 --------- pin 4 ok

    (no 6-8-20 jumper needed on this cable
    what can i do now ?

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