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  1. #1
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    Xcarve 1000mm x 1000mm cnc vs WorkBee 1500mm x 1500mm cnc ?

    hi im looking for some neutral input on these 2 machines only based on stock machine only and facts.

    which machine is better design and better value based on machine only

    i have made some compasrisons and please would like feedback.

    workBee ............................xcarve


    170oz steppers vs 128 oz steppers? disadvantage
    1300mmx1300mm vs 750mmx750mm? disadvantage
    1500watt VFD spindle vs dewalt router ? disadvantage
    2A drivers vs 4A drivers? advantage
    much heavier duty framing vs lighter duty framing? disadvantage
    increased Z travel vs decreased Z travel? disadvantage
    screw drive vs belt drive? overall disadvantage and not industry standard on better machines
    increased Z clearnace vs decreased Z clearance? disadvantage
    GRBL sontroller vs GRBL controller ? basically a tie
    24V power supply vs 24V power supply ? basically a tie
    $1500 cost vs $2000 cost retail? disadvantage
    ER11 collet design vs Dewalt proprietary collet? disadvantage

    workbee 1500mmx1500mm
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Newest-1515...oAAOSw1SFfAEpZ

    xcarve 1000mmx1000mm
    https://www.inventables.com/technolo...IaAhM-EALw_wcB


    thank you





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    Re: Xcarve 1000mm x 1000mm cnc vs WorkBee 1500mm x 1500mm cnc ?

    The Workbee only has an 8mm diameter leadscrew. Kinda tiny. So they have some sort of tensioning mechanism on the leadscrew to prevent whip. Yeah, I have no idea what this is or how it's built. Makes it impossible to do a comparison.

    The larger extrusions and double the amount of wheels make the workbee more rigid....

    It looks like the "workbee" is made by a number of different places. The original ooznest workbee comes with a Duet 2 board, 32 bit, which isn't cheap, and is a nice board. The 2A limitation means that this board was meant primarily for Nema 17s, but you can get an expansion board to add higher current external drivers. None of this is relevant to you per se, as the link you've attached from EBay is a knock off that doesn't have this board.

    I'm not a fan of either of these machines. Check out this thread here if you haven't already....

    https://www.cnczone.com/forums/gener...y-machine.html

    For the same money as the X-Carve (my link shows $2299, not $2000) you could put together a CNC4Newbie machine, which would be better than either of the 2 choices you asked about.

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    Hi thanks but im asking for xcarve vs wotkbee knockoff only

    Yes workbee is much larger and has 4-8x more rigid rails those are fscts

    Yes 8mm screw drive..but screw drive is superior overall compared to rubber belts...thats a fact

    Do you see any advsntsges the xcarve has over the workbee ?

    Mechanically? ...do you disagree with any of my comparison list?

    The workbee is more than 2x the machining area compsred to the smaller xcarve



    There are thousamds of diy kits avsilable today..dime a dozen.

    But for this thread its xcarve vs workbee knockoff.


    Thanks


    means that this board was meant primarily for Nema 17s, but you can get an expansion board to add higher current external drivers. None of this is relevant to you per se,

    https://www.cnczone.com/forums/gener...y-machine.html

    For the same money as the X-Carve (my link shows $2299, not $2000) you could put together a CNC4Newbie machine, which would be better than either of the 2 choices you asked about.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Xcarve 1000mm x 1000mm cnc vs WorkBee 1500mm x 1500mm cnc ?

    Hi Selby - Looking at your list and giving 1 point to the advantage side the Work Bee wins 9 to 1 so that's your answer. Peter

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    Re: Xcarve 1000mm x 1000mm cnc vs WorkBee 1500mm x 1500mm cnc ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby5041 View Post
    but screw drive is superior overall compared to rubber belts...thats a fact
    You're the one saying it's a fact. Not me.

    8mm diameter lead screw with a janky who knows what kind of tensioning system may or may not be better than a small rubber belt, I have no way of knowing. That's what I'm saying.

    Have fun with whichever you choose.

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    Re: Xcarve 1000mm x 1000mm cnc vs WorkBee 1500mm x 1500mm cnc ?

    According to this, Larger size Wokbee's are belt driven.
    https://openbuilds.com/builds/workbee-cnc-machine.5626/

    This is like asking what's better, a car with a blown engine, or a car with no engine.

    All of these low cost machines have serious rigidity issues, and they are all comparable. And advantage one would have would be minimal, and probably negated by some other issue.
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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