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    ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    I have modified the ATC with air cylinder and need to make brackets without the ATC. The fusion 360 post processor Gcode needs to be modified to allow me to not do an ATC tool change but to load the tool in the spindle manually. What is the best Gcode to do this modification and get rid of the line that has the T1 M6 line so that I can do a manual tool change?

    Thanks in advance.

    Jeff

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    Search for InsertToolCall.

    Around this area...


    writeBlock("T" + toolFormat.format(tool.number), mFormat.format(6));
    if (tool.comment) {
    writeComment(tool.comment);
    }

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    Jeff,
    You can remove the tool call and change it to a comment, then insert a M1 there. afterwards make sure your tool offsets are still called.
    I figured once you found the right area in the post you know what to do, if not let me know I will dig deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwskinner View Post
    Jeff,
    You can remove the tool call and change it to a comment, then insert a M1 there. afterwards make sure your tool offsets are still called.
    I figured once you found the right area in the post you know what to do, if not let me know I will dig deeper.
    I suggest using M00 (program stop, as you MUST toolchange), not M1 ( opt. stop )

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    Yes, M00, the M01 was incorrect.

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    rwskinner, thanks for the update. I got if figured out now. Here is the code that I came up with. After line N31 I should be able to just hit start and continue with the code. I am having to make new ATC brackets for my VMC15. I took the plate with the tool in out motor and replaced with Air Cylinder like the EMC20 mills. Streamed lined the look of the mill and only cost like $200 vs a new $600 motor from FADAL. I had to do very little wiring and in fact used the original relay to operate the air solenoid on the stock original air manifold. Once I get the brackets done the mill ATC will operate like original.
    H%
    O1001 (1001 ATC SLIDE BRACKET)
    (MACHINE)
    ( VENDOR: AUTODESK)
    ( MODEL: FADAL VMC15XT)
    ( DESCRIPTION: GENERIC 3-AXIS)
    (T1 D=0.375 CR=0. - ZMIN=-3.167 - FLAT END MILL)
    N10 G90 G94 G17
    N15 G20
    N20 G28 G91 Z0.
    N25 G90

    (2D ADAPTIVE3 PROCESS 1)
    N26 M5 M9
    N30 M0 (T1 M6)
    N31 (Insert T1 .375 Endmill)
    N35 S5000 M3
    N40 G4 P36
    N45 M8
    N50 G0 E1 X0.9404 Y1.5384
    N55 G43 Z0.6 H1
    N60 Z-0.3
    N65 G1 Z-0.3375 F40.
    N70 X0.9402 Z-0.342

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    That post ought to work fine.
    Great idea on the air cylinder. Be sure to post some pics of your mod when done.

    I'm sure you already planned to use them, but I had to install adjustable dampers (flow control valves) to keep the speed reasonable and smooth on that RF45 ATC I built years ago.

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    Re: ATC not working need to run with manual tool changes.

    Are you doing your own sheet metal work? Cat 40 and keyboard racks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwskinner View Post
    Are you doing your own sheet metal work? Cat 40 and keyboard racks?
    RW I actually bought those CAT40 holder trays off of a guy in Minneapolis who bought like 30 of them off of online auction. They were on a pallet. They were HAAS tool holders. They don’t sell them anymore but the guy may have more to sell. Made it nice to hold all the tools I have for now. I made the keyboard tray under the pendant myself. Was fun to do and I wanted it to function good. I did a lot to the machine but I have it the way I wanted and got to put my spin on it.

    Here is the link to the eBay for the racks

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641010574?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Q1NnNm3iSBi&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=lmODKFuLSl W&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

    Jeff

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