586,005 active members*
5,181 visitors online*
Register for free
Login
Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    368

    simple question

    I'm popping in here to ask a quick question.

    On my CNC Centroid mill I have 12 VDC M-function control outputs.

    To control my air mist coolant I have one wired to a 12 VDC relay controlling 110 VAC to a solenoid valve.

    This worked great for the past year.

    This past week I noticed the servos jump when the solenoid valve is activated. And once the XYZ coords were affected.

    My manual says the control relay is internally snubbed.
    The used relay I added had a diode on the coil which I left in place.
    I used shielded cable (grounded at one end) from the control to the used relay.
    I used regular extension cord wire from relay to solenoid valve.

    I know little of electronics. Is there something that should be placed across the legs of the 110 VAC solenoid coil to help with noise?

    Thanks,
    Bob

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    24221
    If the relay coil has a back emf diode, then the other thing to try is a R/C snubber fitted across the 110ac coil, you can buy these ready made or make one from a .1ufd AC-rated cap, and a 330ohm 1watt resistor.
    Check the diode in the relays is still functional.
    Also operate the relay with the solenoid disconnected and see if you still get the jump.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    3312
    If it is feasable, replace the ac solenoid with a zero crossing solid state relay, then use the signal that controller the 12V relay to control the SSR. Mechanical relays switching currents is just plain bad news for control electronics. The reason is two fold, one contacts bounce. Bounce is like a switch that opens and closes a number of times over tens of milliseconds with arcing happening on each make and break of the contacts. The generates some nasty emi and rfi. The second reason is that mechanical relays are indifferent to what the current is when they switch, so if that bounce occurs on the higher current portions of the ac waveform, the interferrence is worse. A zero crossing SSR will turn on when the AC waveform is a zero, the result is quiet switch event.
    Phil, Still too many interests, too many projects, and not enough time!!!!!!!!
    Vist my websites - http://pminmo.com & http://millpcbs.com

Similar Threads

  1. Simple question
    By monte55 in forum Xylotex
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-03-2006, 03:38 AM
  2. Simple Question Simple Answer ?
    By p3t3rv in forum Stepper Motors / Drives
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-16-2006, 04:00 PM
  3. Using Computer PS - Simple Question
    By txcowdog in forum CNC Machine Related Electronics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-03-2005, 06:12 PM
  4. Simple question?
    By johnney0005 in forum CNC (Mill / Lathe) Control Software (NC)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-26-2005, 05:52 PM
  5. simple newbie question
    By swarfmacdaddy in forum G-Code Programing
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-31-2005, 01:37 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •