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    Apprenticeship for Red Seal Question:

    Hi all!

    I am currently enrolled in an 1800 hour Machinist program and loving it. My question is regarding the apprenticeship to obtain a Red Seal certification.

    With many well paying jobs hiring straight out of school without a formal apprenticeship given, should an effort still be made to continue after schooling down the path of apprenticeship? One of the issues is that I see many jobs available with very little experience required as there is a shortage of Machinists, but it is rare I see an opening for a formal apprectice.

    Any advice would be appreciated!

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    Thats hard when I first came here from the UK ( I had papers from there) almost every body wanted Canadian papers, since I got the red seal nobody seems to ask any more.??
    I would do it just in case of that one job one day that may want it.
    Forrey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melmister View Post
    Hi all!

    I am currently enrolled in an 1800 hour Machinist program and loving it. My question is regarding the apprenticeship to obtain a Red Seal certification.
    What Tech school are you taking the course at?

    I would definitely get your red seal, some of the best jobs out there require it. If another job candidate doesn't have a red seal but you do, the odds are stacked in your favour.

    I am even going back to school right now to obtain my Alberta blue seal. I also plan to challenge my Tool & Die red seal this coming summer.
    Live free or die

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    Thanks for the reply's Forrey and Chuck! I am attending Rosemount Tech centre.

    Worst case, if I cannot find a company that will take me on as an apprentice after graduation, can I just take the test for the Red Seal after working a few years?

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    I took a look at the Rosemount website, it looks like a pretty comprehensive course.

    You can challenge the red seal, I think that you need at least 7600 hours of work. I attempted to look it up on the Quebec apprenticeship website, but the French I learned in grade 8 isn't enough.

    All the information should be on the website, or try to phon the place and they can help you out.
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    Thanks Chuck! I'll try to get in contact with them and post when I get a response.

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    I am under the understanding that you can only challenge the C of Q if you have another similar trade certificate already. ie Machinist - Millwright.

    As far as I know the grandfather clause was done away with a dozen years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DareBee View Post
    C of Q

    ?????

    Is that just the Quebec journeyman or what.
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    Certificate of Qualification

    In regards to Melmister's first question.
    All efforts should be made to get all qualifications and training that you can. I have hired some guys with papers that were very useless and I have had guys without papers who are great.
    It is possible (and likely) that when I am sorting resumes I toss most of them without papers.
    Another point that I consider is that it shows drive or "stick to it-ness" that a person is willing to go through all the motions of getting qualified, wether it is needed or not.
    AND some times I can't send a guy out to do site work without a C of Q (not so much an issue with machinists but I have in the past sent machinists to work in a customers tool room for a few weeks if they have staffing issues).
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