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  1. #1
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    Something broke in V2.04

    In V2.03 loading a Fanuc lathe program the way the machine sends it back would load it in text & run fine one line as one line.

    V2.04 only loads it all jumbled together & will not run.

    [IMG]<a href="http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii305/dobedave/Haas/?action=view&current=fanuc.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii305/dobedave/Haas/fanuc.jpg" border="0" alt="Fanuc file"></a>[/IMG]

  2. #2
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    Sorry image didn't work, try again.

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...Haas/fanuc.jpg

  3. #3
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    OK, I found something else that was broke too, so I'll fix this at the same time.

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    This should be fixed now. I've uploaded the updated file, so re-download it and give it a try.

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    Hi Scott,
    Ya having a bit of bother ?. Ive found another problem with the re-released V2.04. Look at this snippet got loads of crap in but get no format errors when plotting. Your last version used to pick up on this sort of thing. It looks like it is just ignoring, also if in Setup/Preferences/stop at M00 is ticked if there is an M on its own or just in a word it throws M00 program stop msg.

    %
    OAA12
    G17G0G99G54
    T1M6
    G97S1000
    G0X100.Y100.
    G0Z2.
    G1Z0.
    M(TTTT
    G0Z5.(TTT
    GARBAGEFORMAT123
    look i can write any thing i like in here
    G0X200.Y200.
    M30
    %

    Might be best like you said, to beta test updates before full release.
    Not a major problem can just use previous version if any problems.
    Have Fun
    Turner

  6. #6
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    Turner,

    This is a result of changing the way addresses are interpreted:

    *************************
    The backplotter will now accept addresses with no corresponding value.
    G00 XYZ
    This will be interpreted as:
    G00 X0 Y0 Z0
    *************************

    From the sounds of it, I need to make this an option that can be turned on or off. In your case you would want it off in order to catch bad G-Code, but turning it on will allow NCPlot to plot code from a wider variety of controls. This is because it will cause NCPlot to ignore keywords or codes that it doesn't understand.

    Yes, it's tough to make sure everything works before release.

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetLHead View Post
    This should be fixed now. I've uploaded the updated file, so re-download it and give it a try.

    Thanks,
    Scott
    That fixed it Scott. The lathe time cycle is still way off gives a 34M time on a job that is less than 1m. But that's ok I can do without that. The mill time cycle is right on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duenow View Post
    That fixed it Scott. The lathe time cycle is still way off gives a 34M time on a job that is less than 1m. But that's ok I can do without that. The mill time cycle is right on.
    I suspect the cycle time issue has something to do with the default feed mode that you have selected (IPM/IPR). Or, it could be off if you're using any of the canned cycles. I know this has been brought up before, but I don't think I ever came up with a good answer for it. If you can, send me a sample program along with the actual cycle time and I'll try to pin this down.

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    Ok, says cycle time is 37M 19S, it's 1M 14S

    &HE:&#37;
    :0178
    G20
    G65P9150H1.(SET FOR 50-90-PSI)
    (BELMED)
    (P/N A-70-000-12 JOB->O178N)
    N2(-FEED-STOCK-T0200)
    G97
    M98P1(SAFESTART)
    G04T0202
    X0.Z1.M09
    /X0.Z-0.550
    /M21
    /G04U0.3(1/2SECDWELL)
    /Z0.020
    /G04U1.
    M22
    M98P2(SAFEEND)
    N3(TURN-ISCAR-.008R)
    G97S1500M13
    M98P1
    G04T0303
    S3000X0.300G00Z0.150
    Z0.
    G99G01X-.060F0.001
    X.0425F0.004
    X0.085Z-0.0063F0.002
    X0.100Z-0.1911F0.002
    X0.139Z-0.2412
    G00Z.010
    X0.
    G01Z.001F0.004
    X.0385
    X0.054Z-0.0085F0.001
    X.0698Z-0.1926F0.0006
    X0.138Z-0.2478F0.002
    Z-.434F0.003
    X.271Z-.530
    M98P2
    N5(-THD-COMPOUND-CUT-T0500)
    G97M13S3000
    M98P1(SAFESTART)
    G4T0505
    X0.311G00Z0.100
    Z.100
    /G76P000060Q0020R0.0001
    (P=SPRING-PASSES.P--=PULL-OFF-DIS.P----=COMP-ANGLE)
    (Q=FIRST-PASS-DEPTH.R=FINISH-PASS-AMOUNT)
    /G76X0.1487Z-.950P0192Q0090R-0.0012F0.03125
    (X=ROOT-DIA-Z=LENGTH-P=SINGLEDEPTH-Q=1STPASSDEPTH-R=TAPER)
    M09
    S1500M98P2(SAFESTARTENDPRG)
    N2(-FEED-STOCK-T0200)
    M05
    M98P1(SAFESTART)
    G04T0202
    X0.Z1.
    /X0.Z.050
    /M21
    /G04U0.3(1/2SECDWELL)
    /Z0.230
    /G04U1.
    M22
    M98P2(SAFEEND)
    N4(GROOVE-.025-T0404)
    G97S1500M13
    M98P1
    G04T0404
    X.227G00Z.300
    S3000Z-1.010
    G99G01X0.167F0.0025
    G04U0.2
    X0.189
    Z-1.011
    X0.167
    X0.189
    Z-1.020
    Z-1.005
    G00X.227
    M09
    M98P2
    N2(FEED-1.27-LONGER)
    M05
    M98P1
    G4T0202
    X0.Z.300S500M09
    /X0.Z.250
    /M21
    /G04U0.3
    /Z1.793
    /G04U1.
    M22
    G00Z3.500
    M01
    N1(-CUTOFF-T0100)
    G97M13S1500
    T0000
    G4T0101
    X.247G00
    S3000Z-.674G00
    G99G01X.157F0.0025
    X.247G00
    Z-.629
    G01Z-.674X.1570F.002
    X0.100F0.002
    X-0.010M26F0.0015
    X-.060F0.004
    X.247G00M09
    M25
    S1000M98P2
    /M31
    M30(-PRG-END)

    %

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    OK, I ran your sample with the default "Lathe Diameter" config and this is what I get.

    Thanks,
    Scott
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Cycle Time.JPG  

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetLHead View Post
    OK, I ran your sample with the default "Lathe Diameter" config and this is what I get.

    Thanks,
    Scott
    now that is strange here is what I get. What's wrong running XT

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i.../Haas/178N.jpg

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    metLHead did you ever figure this out?

    Quote Originally Posted by duenow View Post
    now that is strange here is what I get. What's wrong running XT

    http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i.../Haas/178N.jpg
    About my time cycle?

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    So far, I haven't been able to reproduce the results you have. I'm running Windows Vista, don't know if this matters. I will give it a try on an XP box.

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetLHead View Post
    So far, I haven't been able to reproduce the results you have. I'm running Windows Vista, don't know if this matters. I will give it a try on an XP box.

    Scott
    Strange thing is the mill part is right on in cycle time. & notice you with the same program says "Total feed length" = 5.73852 & mine says 14.0097.

    I have un-installed the program & deleted the folders & re-installed with the same results.

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    Yep, it's the difference in the feed length that is throwing me off. I noticed that you are using a couple of subs, what's the feed length if you set NCPlot to ignore subs?

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetLHead View Post
    Yep, it's the difference in the feed length that is throwing me off. I noticed that you are using a couple of subs, what's the feed length if you set NCPlot to ignore subs?

    Scott
    Well with subs set to Ignore All it works 1 min 12 seconds just like you got.
    Subs are these:
    &HE:%
    :0001
    G01G40G97G98F400.
    M98P10999
    M99
    %


    &HE:%
    :0002
    N21G01G98Z0.500F400.
    N22G40
    N23G97
    N24M98P10999
    N25M01
    N26M99
    %

    &HE:%
    :0999
    N1G01Z1.00T0000
    N2M99
    %


    But since my mill uses subs sometimes does the ignore all stick for both
    mill & lathe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duenow View Post
    But since my mill uses subs sometimes does the ignore all stick for both
    mill & lathe?
    Yes, it applies to both.

    Scott

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