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  1. #1
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    Making Plaster mold for casting A356

    Hi

    Does any one have experiance of making plaster molds for parts like this????
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    sure. I have lots of experience in producing plaster molds and plaster mold castings. are you looking for advice on making the mold, or are you looking for a casting source?

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    looking for resources

    Hi esscasting

    I am looking for some information or journal or litrature which explains the process. I thought of making the mold out of plaster but now i am thinking to make it out DFS (dense fused silica) and heating it in a furnace. DFS because it has the properties required for my experiment.

    I also thought of making the pattern out of ABS instead of wood.

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    well, without knowing too much detail about your project (part geometry, quantity and tooling life) and priorities (time vs $ invested vs metallurgy requirements), it's difficult for me to provide any advice. I'm not particularly familiar with DFS, but I'm under the impression that it is used to make a semi-permanent mold which it typically done for production quantities. Depending upon part shape complexity and size, this could result in significant greater investment in tooling compared to prototype/low-volume methods like traditional sand casting or plaster mold casting.

    for information on a variety of casting processes, there are several books on Amazon that are fairly cheap, my guess is they are useful for the hobbyist only. If you're experiment is for a high precision, complex-shape then, I'd recommend starting at the American Foundrymen Society, www.afsinc.com. there is a searchable library in their technical section, but I'm sure you'll have to pay considerable $.

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    millions of parts like this are cast in green sand molds
    In the words of the Toolman--If you didn't make it yourself, it's not really yours!
    Remember- done beats perfect every time!!

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    Forget casting...what you need is a 36 axis cnc machine...Or go with what the previous poster recommends...Simple sand casting! :KISS:
    Keith

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    Plaster mold

    Yup its a simple casting but I need a material which could give me unidirectional solidification and more over instumentations on this mold is much complex to use sand mold.

    I dont have much data regarding Plaster mold its expansion coefficients, Thermal shock absorbtion capability etc...

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    use lost foam casting on this it gives very nice finnish and you could machine this from foam very easy

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    Navnav2006:

    What are the basic dimensions? I can't read you drawing.

    We investment cast A356 in-house all the time from patterns run on our own RP machines, but we have size limitations. How many do you need and what are the tolerances? Surface finish requirements? Do they need to be x-rayed or dye penetrant inspected? Need certs?

    Bill Box, Mark Two Engineering, Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc2309 View Post
    use lost foam casting on this it gives very nice finnish and you could machine this from foam very easy
    Huh...Seriously? Is "gives very nice finnish" the same as French kissing? It's OK I knew you were kidding.....You "were" kidding
    Keith

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    well its better than sand casting, if you dip your pattern in plaster first and support it in loose sand

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    plaster for casting

    Try plaster of paris, mixed with equal parts of powdered pumice stone, which makes a find mold for casting fusible metals. Alternatively you may use dental plaster if economical.

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    Well thats not to complex for a sand mold....
    Hey check out my website...www.cravenoriginal.com
    Thanks Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc2309 View Post
    well its better than sand casting, if you dip your pattern in plaster first and support it in loose sand
    Would you accept a challenge?

    You make the part with lost foam and I'll cast it in sand....Let the viewers decide the winner....You get to choose from Brass Aluminium or Copper as the metal.

    Personally when going the plaster route I'll stick with wax and commercial casting plaster....btw the plaster is cheaper than the sand.
    Keith

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    i know that sand can give a very nice finnish, i cast in sand often. but i dont need a core with foam and my patterns dont need any draft. you can glue the foam into designs or cnc mill it just like they do wax but you dont need to burnout or expensive investments to deal with. but it wont get the detail of wax. we could cast something in aluminum, its fast and easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc2309 View Post
    i know that sand can give a very nice finnish, i cast in sand often. but i dont need a core with foam and my patterns dont need any draft. you can glue the foam into designs or cnc mill it just like they do wax but you dont need to burnout or expensive investments to deal with. but it wont get the detail of wax. we could cast something in aluminum, its fast and easy
    Lets cast the part described in post No1 then? I'll scale it so the ID is 20mm...No draft on the pattern.

    Looking forward to it
    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipper View Post
    Lets cast the part described in post No1 then? I'll scale it so the ID is 20mm...No draft on the pattern.

    Looking forward to it
    are you talking about the elbo shaped peice. i dont have time to make that from foam, and i dont need one. i will cast something i need soon and post it

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc2309 View Post
    are you talking about the elbo shaped peice. i dont have time to make that from foam, and i dont need one. i will cast something i need soon and post it
    Oh....
    Keith

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    Hey check out my website...www.cravenoriginal.com
    Thanks Marc

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