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  1. #1
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    Cutting question

    This was just a simple test. It is done in ArtCam and transfered to Mach3 in .tap format. The 1/8" straight bit needed to plunge 1/4" into the material and make a simple circular cut along the vector. The photo shows the uneven line along the cut circle. This is the starting and finishing point of the cut.

    Can anyone tell me why is this happening? It should be a perfect circle.

    Thanks
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  2. #2
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    Imperfect circle

    If you could post the code used to cut the piece it would help. It can then be determined if the problem is in the programming or in the machine.

  3. #3
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    Being as it is at your starting and ending points I would say it is most likely your cutter radius. It should be turning on your radius comp. prior to going into the material and turning off comp. after exiting the material.
    That's my guess.

  4. #4
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    Another guess is that you're not overlapping your lead in/out and using a circular or angled lead in/out .
    But without the code to look at we're all really just guessing
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  5. #5
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    here's the code:

    T1M6
    G0Z0.2000
    G0X0.0000Y0.0000S15000M3
    G0X0.7500Y1.5000Z0.2000
    G1Z-0.1250F15.0
    G1X0.7516Y1.5492F30.0
    X0.7565Y1.5991
    X0.7650Y1.6492
    X0.7769Y1.6994
    X0.7925Y1.7491
    X0.8117Y1.7981
    X0.8344Y1.8459
    X0.8606Y1.8921
    X0.8900Y1.9365
    X0.9224Y1.9786
    X0.9575Y2.0181
    X0.9952Y2.0548
    X1.0349Y2.0886
    X1.0764Y2.1191
    X1.1194Y2.1464
    X1.1634Y2.1704
    X1.2081Y2.1911
    X1.2545Y2.2089
    X1.3023Y2.2237
    X1.3511Y2.2352
    X1.4005Y2.2435
    X1.4502Y2.2484
    X1.5000Y2.2500
    X1.5492Y2.2484
    X1.5991Y2.2435
    X1.6492Y2.2350
    X1.6994Y2.2231
    X1.7491Y2.2075
    X1.7981Y2.1883
    X1.8459Y2.1656
    X1.8921Y2.1394
    X1.9365Y2.1100
    X1.9786Y2.0776
    X2.0181Y2.0425
    X2.0548Y2.0048
    X2.0886Y1.9651
    X2.1191Y1.9236
    X2.1464Y1.8806
    X2.1704Y1.8366
    X2.1911Y1.7919
    X2.2089Y1.7455
    X2.2237Y1.6977
    X2.2352Y1.6489
    X2.2435Y1.5995
    X2.2484Y1.5498
    X2.2500Y1.5000
    X2.2484Y1.4508
    X2.2435Y1.4009
    X2.2350Y1.3508
    X2.2231Y1.3006
    X2.2075Y1.2509
    X2.1883Y1.2019
    X2.1656Y1.1541
    X2.1394Y1.1079
    X2.1100Y1.0635
    X2.0776Y1.0214
    X2.0425Y0.9819
    X2.0048Y0.9452
    X1.9651Y0.9114
    X1.9236Y0.8809
    X1.8806Y0.8536
    X1.8366Y0.8296
    X1.7919Y0.8089
    X1.7455Y0.7911
    X1.6977Y0.7763
    X1.6489Y0.7648
    X1.5995Y0.7565
    X1.5498Y0.7516
    X1.5000Y0.7500
    X1.4508Y0.7516
    X1.4009Y0.7565
    X1.3508Y0.7650
    X1.3006Y0.7769
    X1.2509Y0.7925
    X1.2019Y0.8117
    X1.1541Y0.8344
    X1.1079Y0.8606
    X1.0635Y0.8900
    X1.0214Y0.9224
    X0.9819Y0.9575
    X0.9452Y0.9952
    X0.9114Y1.0349
    X0.8809Y1.0764
    X0.8536Y1.1194
    X0.8296Y1.1634
    X0.8089Y1.2081
    X0.7911Y1.2545
    X0.7764Y1.3023
    X0.7648Y1.3511
    X0.7565Y1.4005
    X0.7516Y1.4503
    X0.7500Y1.5000
    G0Z0.2000
    G0X0.0000Y0.0000
    G0Z0.2000
    G0X0Y0
    M30

    Boots, I did not understand what you mean by "comp." , you got me lost there.

    It looks as if the cutter plunges slightly inside the circle's vector instead on the centerline, then it goes to follow the vector ok but before it finishes it goes back to the starting point.

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    The code looks OK here. Are you sure the machine isn't flexing when plunging? What kind of machine is this?
    Gerry

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  7. #7
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    Zigman,
    Sorry but I thought everyone knew the abreviation for compensation (Comp.) I did run your NC code in my software and it looks like a bunch of straight lines all connected to form a circle about 1.4 inches accross. There is no approach to the cut in the code so I'm not sure how your machine is handling it. But I have to tell my machine the dia. of the tool so it will move off the Radius of the tool and be lined up with the cut line before plunging in. This is the Comp.=Compensation.

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    Boots. he's not using comp. No G41/G42.
    Gerry

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  9. #9
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    Haven't done manual G-code for (secret) years. Should the tool have returned to X0.7516Y1.5492 after X0.7516Y14503 to complete circle? Maybe I'm becoming sen....

    Dick Z
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  10. #10
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    I have just started with ArtCam and I'm not familiar with it yet. I will look for the comp. settings but I know the program did ask me what tool do I want to use use and I had a 1/8" straight bit set as the tool. And there is a function where the bit follows the vector, I guess it is used for simple centerline engraving.

  11. #11
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    Hello All

    This looks like a simple HPGL to G code conversion .... most plotters draw 70 straight lines for a circle and this looks 'oh so similar' .... good for systems with no circular interpolation (G41/42). Maybe the option is turned off?

    In any event I agree with Gerry something is moving that is not suppose to.

    Regards

    Richard

  12. #12
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    The code only gives 1/8 plunge depth. Not the 1/4 you said. My guess is the plunge is staight. And the direction of the cut is conventional to the outside and climb to the inside making the cutter pull outward through the cut path. So the start and finish would look to be inside the cut arc.

    Depending on cutter flute length and cutter stick out of the holder could affect this.
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