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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
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    Pierce Delay even when set to 0?

    I am having a pierce delay (plasma), even when set to 0. Not long, but it makes an unecessarily large pierce hole when it doesn't need to delay.

    Any ideas? I thought maybe it was the spindle incr. setting in general config waiting for it to spin up, it was set at 10, and spindle speed in gcode is 500, so i tried setting it to 500, and didn't seem to make a difference???

    I would like to get rid of this if possible. Also if you see something else wrong in the post or gcode, let me know, Im learning well, but still a long ways to go.

    here is a gcode for a straight line test cut using sheetcam, I cant find anything weird, so I think its with mach.

    I am setting z home switch offset in the post file, and using sheetcam for pierce delays, heights, etc.

    ------------------

    N0000 (Filename: 2&half horizontal line.tap)
    N0010 (Post processor: Brians Plasma THC300.scpost)
    N0020 (Date: 1/30/2009)
    N0030 G20 (Units: Inches)
    N0040 G53 G90 G40
    N0050 F1
    N0060 S500
    N0070 (Part: 2&half horizontal line)
    N0080 (Process: nil)
    N0090 M06 T3 (1/4" steel 60 amp)
    N0100 G00 Z1.0000
    N0110 X0.0000 Y0.0000
    N0120 G28.1 Z0.12
    N0130 G92 Z0.0
    N0140 G00 Z0.3575
    N0150 G92 Z0.0
    N0160 G00 Z0.1250
    N0170 M03
    N0180 G01 X0.0000 Y0.0000 Z0.0625 F100
    N0190 X2.5000 F40
    N0200 M05
    N0210 G00 Z1.0000
    N0220 X0.0000 Y-0.2500
    N0230 M05 M30

    ----------------------

    Here is my post file

    function OnAbout(event)
    ctrl = event:GetTextCtrl()
    ctrl:AppendText("plasma THC300 post processor\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("Modal G-codes and coordinates\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("Comments enclosed with ( and )\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("M03/M05 turn the torch on/off\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("Incremental IJ\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("The torch is referenced at cut start and every 500mm of movement thereafter\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("Designed for use with Mach2 and Campbell Designs THC300\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("Post variables:\n")
    ctrl:AppendText("refdistance - set the distance between each reference\n")
    end



    -- revision 3/2/07
    -- Removed final safety move. This is now done in SheetCam

    -- revision 7/10/05
    -- Added new arc handling

    -- created 27/10/04
    -- Based on plasma1.post



    function OnInit()

    post.SetCommentChars ("()", "[]") --make sure ( and ) characters do not appear in system text
    post.Text (" (Filename: ", fileName, ")\n")
    post.Text (" (Post processor: ", postName, ")\n")
    post.Text (" (Date: ", date, ")\n")
    if(scale == metric) then
    post.Text (" G21 (Units: Metric)\n") --metric mode
    else
    post.Text (" G20 (Units: Inches)\n") --inch mode
    end
    post.Text (" G53 G90 G40\n F1\n S500\n")

    dist = 9999999
    refdistance = 500 * scale
    switchoffset = .3575
    bigArcs = 1 --stitch arc segments together
    minArcSize = 0.05 --arcs smaller than this are converted to moves
    end

    function OnNewLine()
    post.Text ("N")
    post.Number (lineNumber, "0000")
    lineNumber = lineNumber + 10
    end


    function OnFinish()
    post.Text (" M05 M30\n")
    end

    function OnRapid()
    if(endZ < currentZ) then return end
    dist = dist + math.hypot(endX-currentX , endY-currentY)
    post.ModalText (" G00")
    post.ModalNumber (" X", endX * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" Y", endY * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" Z", endZ * scale, "0.0000")
    post.Eol()
    end

    function OnMove()
    dist = dist + math.hypot(endX-currentX , endY-currentY)
    post.ModalText (" G01")
    post.ModalNumber (" X", endX * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" Y", endY * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" Z", endZ * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" F", feedRate * scale, "0.###")
    post.Eol()
    end

    function OnArc()
    dist = dist + math.hypot(endX-currentX , endY-currentY)
    if(arcAngle <0) then
    post.ModalText (" G03")
    else
    post.ModalText (" G02")
    end
    post.NonModalNumber (" X", endX * scale, "0.0000")
    post.NonModalNumber (" Y", endY * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" Z", endZ * scale, "0.0000")
    post.Text (" I")
    post.Number ((arcCentreX - currentX) * scale, "0.0000")
    post.Text (" J")
    post.Number ((arcCentreY - currentY) * scale, "0.0000")
    post.ModalNumber (" F", feedRate * scale, "0.0###")
    post.Eol()
    end


    function OnPenDown()
    if(dist >= (refdistance/scale)) then
    dist = 0
    post.ModalText(" G28.1 Z")
    post.Number(3 * scale, "0.00")
    post.Eol()
    post.ModalText(" G92 Z0.0\n")
    post.ModalText (" G00")
    post.ModalNumber(" Z", switchoffset, "0.0000")
    post.Eol()
    post.ModalText(" G92 Z0.0\n")
    post.CancelModalNumbers()
    end
    post.ModalText (" G00")
    post.ModalNumber (" Z", pierceHeight * scale, "0.0000")
    post.Eol()
    if (preheat > 0) then
    post.Text ("\n G04 P")
    post.Number (preheat,"0.###")
    post.Eol()
    end
    post.Text ("\n M03\n")
    if (pierceDelay > 0) then
    post.Text (" G04 P")
    post.Number (pierceDelay,"0.###")
    post.Eol()
    end
    end


    function OnPenUp()
    post.Text (" M05\n")
    if (endDelay > 0) then
    post.Text (" G04 P")
    post.Number (endDelay,"0.###")
    post.Eol()
    end
    end


    function OnNewOperation()
    post.Text (" (Process: ", processname, ")\n")
    if (plungeRate <= 0) then
    post.Warning("WARNING: Plunge rate is zero")
    end
    if (feedRate <= 0) then
    post.Warning("WARNING: Feed rate is zero")
    end
    end

    function OnComment()
    post.Text(" (",commentText,")\n")
    end

    function OnToolChange()
    post.Text (" M06 T")
    post.Number (tool, "0")
    post.Text (" (", toolName, ")\n")
    end

    function OnNewPart()
    post.Text(" (Part: ",partName,")\n");
    end

    function OnDrill()
    OnRapid()
    OnPenDown()
    endZ = drillZ
    OnMove()
    OnPenUp()
    endZ = safeZ
    OnRapid()
    end

    ---------------------------

    ???

    Brian

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
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    Looks to me like the process is waiting for the Z axis to make a short move. How fast is your Z motion? I assume you don't use any "prove-arc" command from the plasma power source as a motion interrupt.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    130
    I have pierce set at .125, and cut at .0625, so it has to move .0625, Velocity is 100 ipm, and accel is 15, so theoretically (if my math is correct) it should take approx .037 of a second, and the delay is much longer than that, its more like 1-2 seconds.

    I do not have a prove arc command right now, but the hypertherm does have the easily accessible xfer (machine move) feature available, which in another thread, I am seeing if anyone knows how to use this without a THC. (I have the soundlogic board and use mach)

  4. #4
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    Nov 2008
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    Ah HA! I found it on my own! Im posting, cause maybe someone else will have the same problem.

    In the ports and pins settings, Spindle setup Tab, the options that deal with CW and CCW spin up and spin down were set at 1 instead of 0! Now that I changed it, It does what I want.

    Now, I have to go back and reset the pierce delay for my tools to cut heavier metals, the right way, not starting with 1 sec of delay!

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