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  1. #1
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    G83 won't rapid to the bottom of hole?

    Hello all,
    I'm new here and to machining, but have been CAD/CAMing in solidworks/camworks for a few months and have some ?s.

    I'd like to drill a 2mm hole through 0.75" quartz on my HAAS VM2, and man, using G83 is likely to take upwards of a week with the required feeds at F0.06 IPM (10,000RPM).

    The lengthy time comes from the fact that after the rapid retract, my machine feeds back to the hole bottom at the stated feed rate. Is there a way to RAPID back to the bottom of the hole, say 0.020" above the floor? That would cut time down by 95%.

    Thanks
    Damon

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    What value do you have in setting 22?
    Greg

  3. #3
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    Please subscribe us with the values set on settings 22 and 52 and the part program and so we can help you.

    Cheers!

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    g73 (high speed peck drill??)

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    I found out what was wrong, at least i think so. G83 worked like it was supposed to, but Setting 22 was set too high (0.050in). With a feed rate of 0.06 in/min, and a a depth of 0.8, it was set to take weeks (almost literally) to do. I changed the setting to 0.005 and the task took a more reasonable time.

    Here's the code that i've got:

    %
    O0001
    N1 G00 G90 G20
    N2 T07 M06 (2.0MM Diamond DRILL)
    N3 S10000 M03
    N4 G00 G54 X0 Y0 S10000 M03
    N5 G43 H07 Z.02 M08
    N6 G83 R.02 Z-.8 Q.001 F.06
    N7 G80 Z.03 M09
    N8 G91 G28 Z0
    N9 G28 X0 Y0
    N10 M30
    %
    (this is all kicked out from Camworks- HAAS Post)

    All it is is pecking down to 0.8" deep. It's a small drill in a very hard material, but i don't have access to center-cooling bits. so, i'm relying on a retract to flush out debris and insert coolant on each plunge.

    Anyone have any ideas on how to speed this up a bit?
    Thanks
    Damon

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    Sounds a little like drilling glass, so maybe a soft core drill technique would work: obtain some steel tubing (like a hypodermic needle) and diamond paste, and core drill the hole. Now a machining center is maybe not the right machine for the job, a simple drill press with a weight hanging on the lever, while the thing runs merrily away, eroding its way in.
    First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    we use to interpolate small holes -.75 and deeper with core drills and thru spindle coolant on our quartz .........worked great. with out t.s.c. your pretty limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by +/-? View Post
    we use to interpolate small holes -.75 and deeper with core drills and thru spindle coolant on our quartz .........worked great. with out t.s.c. your pretty limited.
    you are 100% right! TSC is about 5 times faster, but we only need to do this a few times. So the cost isn't justified.

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