[dresda]

Hi, I just bought a mill with centurion 1 control.
The machine runs good and i can make a program, and I can sent the program to the floppy but I can't load from floppy.
The book says, press F2 load and it will display the programs but mine gives an error and says can't find programs.
Is there a format that I should use like % or ( ) or P or O.
I thought if the floppy received from the control then the floppy drive should be OK.
Regards, Ray.

[JimBoyce]

Try to copy a program to the floppy. If this works, examine the file name on a computer for quirks such as the letter O as the first character, the quantity of the numbers (O1234) and the extension (the 3 letters after the period) if it has one.

[dresda]

When I sent the program to the floppy it sent two programs O0005 and P0005
O0005 just looks a fanuc program although it was a conversational program and I can read it with wordpad, P0005 was garbage.
Do you think I have to format the disk, It is a 386DX control?

This is what I tried to load back into the machine:
O0005 (SPROCKET COVER)
(Conversational File)
(.250 ALLOY)
G20 G90
N1 G17 G68 X0 Y0 AA90.
N2
G99 F20.
P144 = .06
P199=1
G0 X0 Y0
P150 = .750
P153 = 0
G25 R.1 Z.260 Q.1 F20. V.06 G41 G3
N3 G1 F20. X0 Y-1.25 Z.1
N4 G1 F5. X0 Y-1.25 Z-.05
N5 G1 F20. X-.5 Y-2.
N6 G1 F20. X.5 Y-2.
N7 G1 X0 Y-1.25
N8
(END OF O0005)

[franchcnc]

If you create a conversational program there are two file types are created. The P0005 is the conversational format(used only for conversational editing) and a text format O0005 (used to run). You may only see one or the other on control menus depending on the mode you are in, but both files are written to the disk when saved.
To create a file offline it must start with an O and follow with 4 numbers
ex. O1234, with no file extension.
If you do not plan on using the conversational on the control there is a parameter that will allow you to see any file name/type. I would suggest if you are just learning the control it may be best to leave it the way it is.

[LYN BYRD]

you can set the control to use full dos filenames in params.

[JimBoyce]

Some (all?) machines are very specific about filenames and extensions.
My buddy's Haas will not read files with extensions, in fact the machine will refuse to acknowledge the files even exist. So try no extensions as franchcnc has pointed out.
Also make sure in windows explorer that the check box to see extensions is enabled (or is it hide extensions not checked) so you can see extensions.

[dresda]

Thanks guys for the quick response.
Here is part of my program put on notepad saved as .Txt

O1234

N01 G90 G80 G40 G20 G17

N02 G00 G91 G28 Z0.
N03 G91 G28 X0. Y0.


N04 T01
N05 S1497 M03
N06 G90 G54 X-55.3174 Y70.0687
N07 G43 H01 Z2.54 M08
N08 G81 G98 X-55.3174 Y70.0687 Z-2.032 R2.54 F152.1287
N09 X49.3247 Y61.3101
N10 X75.6005 Y-8.7586
N11 X23.9709 Y-64.537
N12 X-91.2737 Y-24.4319
N13 G80
N14 Z2.54
N15 M09
N16 M05
N17 G00 G91 G28 Z0.
N18 M01

Ray.

[franchcnc]

Do you plan on using the conversational programming? If you do I would leave the parameters set as they are and remove the .txt from the file name and it will be recognized by the control. It is just simpler to enter programs.
If you do not wish to use the conversational programming you can change the parameter "Full Dos File Names" to yes. This will allow the control to see any file name with or without an extension. The downfall is it takes away the controls ability to differentiate between text and conversational files. So when you have to enter a file name you must type in the the entire name and not just the number (ex. "O0001" versus "1" or "P0001" versus "1" for conversational).
To change the parameter go to Util-parms-setup, validation code=776863, access level 3. The "Full DOS File Names" is located under the Misc parameters.

I also noticed in your program you have values that appear to be metric(unless your machine has 150" of X travel), but there is G20 at the beginning of your program.

Good Luck!

[dresda]

Thanks Franchcnc, I will try it when I get a chance.
Yes, you are right, I am in metric, and I didn't notice the G20.
This is the first program I have generated using Bobcad and it just spits all the codes out, I usually put them in by hand, the old school way.
Ray.

[dresda]

This seems like a dumb question but, how do I save my program in notepad or wordpad with no extention, when I try to save it it gives me two options txt or al files.
Ray.

[JimBoyce]

The filename should have no extension, that is nothing after the required period (O1234.).
Then under "Save as type:" pick "All Files (*.*)"
This just worked under Vista.

[dresda]

If I look at the properties of the files I took out of the milltronics and the file from the Bobcad editor they all say, Type of file = File, yet anthing I save on Notepad or wordpad always says text file even when I save as "all files".
I think if I go through the editor it will be fine.
I think I have made programs in notepad and sent to Fanuc with no problems, I guess it's the conversational thing with the milltronics.
Ray.

[dresda]

OK, now I think this is how it works.
If I use notepad or wordpad and "save as" and as you guys said no ext, It does work, but I was just saving it as lets say o1234 then it saves it as a text doc,
but if I save it it as o1234 and put a . then it saves as a file, does that make sense...
You guys were right, I just didn't know about the .
Ray.

[franchcnc]

" I save it it as o1234 and put a . then it saves as a file, does that make sense..."

I had never done it that way, but it seems work.

[dresda]

Ok, got the program to run now but have other problems.
I verified the program with Bobcad and it worked fine but when I ran it through my machine I get Error 509 Arc lack intersection, don't have alarm list for the Centurion 1, can you help.
Help.

[dresda]

This is strange, "The alarm 509 Arc lacks intersection" looks like a small gap in the run on the graph.
When looking at the dot moving along you can see several blocks ahead and there is a small gap and that's were it stops.
I have checked, run, verified and watched it machine the part in solid with my Bobcad, yet it stops on the Milltronics. It did two pockets and a hole with no problems.
Ray.

[ihbuilder]

I do not mean to hijack this tread but I got to say thanks to the OP and all the contributers :cheers: just by reading a little I found this thread and solved 1 of 2 probs I'm having

Steve