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  1. #1
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    E-stop will not reset??

    I've just finished my new 4' x 2' CNC build. Running Keling steppers and KL-5056 drivers. Cannot get the E-stop to reset on the Mach3 screen. Can I have the pins config wrong. I know it's wired correct and the limits are wired correct. Where should I start looking?
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    Toggle the active low setting in ports and pins >input pins for the estop.
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    I tried that but no go. I have called Keling for support and have checked my wiring 10 times over. I even disabled the E-stop in config under ports and pins and it will not clear. All my voltages are correct and the three motors are electrial locked. I'm starting to wonder if I should un-install the Mach 3 and reinstall?? Any other ideas??

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    Have you tried killing the power to everything (Mach3-PC, Cnc-machine, everything...) then try to boot back up?
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    I just did a reboot but no go. I then went into ports and pins and enabled active low and no go. Then tried enabled active low and emundated and it cleared WTF. Is this OK?? to run like this?

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    update. Now that it cleared I cannot jog any axis. The software seems to be working but no movement from the motors. Very odd. I know I have it all wired correct as per Keling drawings. Any ideas out there

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    Do the DRO's change when you try to jog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefootboy4 View Post
    I even disabled the E-stop in config under ports and pins and it will not clear.
    You can't disable it and run Mach3. Do you have the E-stop pin connected to the board?
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    Make sure your parallel cable is straight through.

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    All good questions.
    I checked the parellel cable with a meter and it's straight thru.
    The DRO's do change and try to jog but no movement from the motors
    The Estop is connected to the board. I'm not sure what you mean by the Estop pin??
    It's acting like the cable is not hooked up. How do I check if the port address is correct? I really do appreacite the help here guys.

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    What breakout board do you have?

    Watch the setup video on www.machsupport.com and it'll show you how to get the correct port address from the device manager. If the DRO's change, then either you've wired something wrong, or the port is wrong.

    And, fwiw, usually when someone says everything is wired correctly, the wiring is the problem. You need to triple check everything, then check it again. If the port is set correctly, triggering a limit switch should light an LED on Mach's diagnostic screen, provided the pins are setup correctly.

    Do you have an E-Stop switch wired to a breakout board?
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    Also, the easiest way to troubleshoot something like this, is to disconnect everything, and start with a single motor. Get that to work, then add another. Keep ading one component at a time, making sure it works with each added component. This is especially true with limit switches, where false triggers from noise is a common occurrence.
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    gerry,
    Thanks for the quick reply. I have the Keling C10 breakout board. It's acting like the computer is not even talking to the breakout board. I think this is why I'm having the failure to reset issue. Support at Keling is basicly not there so I'm depending on the forum for help.
    I'll watch the vid and try your suggestions and after that re-check the wiring. The C10 board does have something I do not understand. The 5VDC power to the board has three (3) imputs which makes no sense to me. One 5VDC- to the ground, one 5VDC+ to the next pin and also a 5VDC+ to a master enable toggle and to the third pin. Does that sound correct to you? When I toggle the switch nothing happens. I think this could be my problem.
    And yes the NC E=stop button is wired into the Break-out C10 board!

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    The 5VDC power to the board has three (3) imputs which makes no sense to me. One 5VDC- to the ground, one 5VDC+ to the next pin and also a 5VDC+ to a master enable toggle and to the third pin. Does that sound correct to you? When I toggle the switch nothing happens. I think this could be my problem.
    What switch?

    You need 5V to both the enable terminal and the 5V terminal.
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    Keling drawing calls for a "MASTER ENABLE TOGGLE SWITCH" in line to the enable pin. I have three pins and three wires. Two are for 5VDC+ and one for 5VDC-
    I just watched the Support Vid's and have a few things to check. I will get back to you ASAP
    Thanks
    Steve

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    Keling drawing calls for a "MASTER ENABLE TOGGLE SWITCH" in line to the enable pin.
    You only need this if you want to enable the board with the switch.
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    So how should I wire it without the switch??

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    Just remove the switch, and put 5V on the 5V terminal and the enable terminal.
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    Gerry,
    I removed the switch and wired direct. Checked the voltage and it's good at 5VDC. Did the mach 3 DRIVER TEST and it came out EXCELLENT. Checked the driver voltage and it's 48.6VDC. Checked the LPT port address and it's correct. Checked the parrellel port cable with a meter on all 25 pins and it's straight thru. Checked to see if port was enabled and it is. Both female ends are wired the same.
    The Estop will reset which is good.
    No movement on motors yet. Cannot jog or arrow up or down in motor tune.
    It's still acting like the computer is not connected to the breakout board. How do you check for connectivy?

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    If the DRO's are moving, jog an axis back and forth, and measure the voltage on the direction pin terminal on the breakout board. One direction should read 5V, and the other direction 0V.

    Do the motors lock up when power is applied?
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