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  1. #1
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    Exotic MGN W12 F1 Engine

    The very unconventional F1 engine MGN W12 with rotary valve.


    MGN W12-Motor Seite 1

    http://www.autodiva.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=440
    MGN W12-Motor Seite 2
    http://www.autodiva.fr/forum/viewtop...t=440&start=40
    MGN W12-Motor Seite 3
    http://www.autodiva.fr/forum/viewtop...t=440&start=80

    Edit

    I have found a Video and a Docu

    Video
    http://shareplace.com/?8156041C3


    pdf-document
    http://shareplace.com/?B5BD978010

  2. #2
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    Cool, that W16 looks awesome.
    Some tech school teacher built a W9 with 3 banks of 3 cylinders at 0-60-120 bank angles.
    It was a beautiful design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enginetuner View Post
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    Nifty! Pity they didn't show the crankshaft.

  5. #5
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    W motors.

    A guy called Thomas Johansen built a superb W9.
    There is a PDF describing it in detail, (a summary of his thesis).
    The whole package is so neat! 3 big ends per journal, 4 main bearings.
    Short, light, it's awsome.
    The Motors Negre was a cool idea, but i think the rotary valve maybe let it down a bit.
    I tend to believe rotary valves and rotary throttles create heaps of turbulence on the intake killing power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmerfud View Post
    A guy called Thomas Johansen built a superb W9.
    There is a PDF describing it in detail, (a summary of his thesis).
    Here is the PDF: http://epubl.luth.se/1402-1617/2006/...X-06099-SE.pdf

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    i would love to make a engine like that. But i am poor designer.

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    Hey dynosor, good research!

  9. #9
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    Life F1, the motor did not have a very good run and was dropped for a DFR or a Hart, I think. Looks a lot like the MGN w12 except for the rotary valve, little information is available.
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    All alone in a hijacked thread nobody reads, I found a small snip of information with reference to an X11?!? X11? Does anybody know anything about this X11?
    I think it was an Auto Union project that Porsche may have worked on.

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