[SanDiegoCNC]

I don't work in a shop. And I thought you said you weren't from San Diego? (nuts)

Surprise! Yes, I'm in San Diego. I thought my avatar was a dead give-a-way. Guess not, huh?

[extanker59]

Better be careful Rekd or he'll tell you to "go pound sand". Must be a fetish with him.

[SanDiegoCNC]

You seem to know a lot about fetishes.(wedge)

[extanker59]

Argh. You got me.

[SanDiegoCNC]

Don't worry... ObamaCare will take care of your health needs.

[extanker59]

You are too easy.

[Rekd]

Surprise! Yes, I'm in San Diego. I thought my avatar was a dead give-a-way. Guess not, huh?

When you say things like

I'm not from San Diego.

One might assume you meant you were not in San Diego when taken in context.

But that's besides the point. The point here is that a) the tools/box does not make the machinist, no matter how badly you want it to, and b) now that you're back after your little time-out I excpect you to abide by the rules, just like everyone else. Next time I might not be so nice. (nuts)

Mkthx.

[SanDiegoCNC]

The point here is that a) the tools/box does not make the machinist, no matter how badly you want it to...

I'll be sure to take into consideration your vast experience in the machining world and weigh your opinions accordingly. (nuts)

[Rekd]

I'll be sure to take into consideration your vast experience in the machining world and weigh your opinions accordingly. (nuts)

Your consideration is neither requested nor required. I'm just letting you know that you're wrong. If you want to keep making yourself out to be the fool go right ahead. Just don't start calling people names when they point that out to you.

You've no idea why a person chooses the tools he does. For all you know he decided to get out of the business and sold his tools then had to get back into it and couldn't afford to replace his tools.

He might have to carry his tools in a *cough*bag*cough* until he can afford a box. And what if said person doesn't want to spend several hundred bucks on a name brand box? Who are you to tell him he's not a good machinist because he only spent 70 bucks on it?

And since you bring it up, my quarter century of experience in this industry in San Diego has served me very well and has allowed me to hire (and fire) all kinds of machinists whose capabilities were in no way related to the type of tool box or type of tools they used.

Some of the best machinists I've known use a crappy tool box, and one of THE worst machinists I know has the biggest Kennedy I've ever seen filled with some of the best tools out there and couldn't use them to measure his way out of a wet paper bag.

Look, I'm sorry you made such a fool of yourself over this issue, and I hope you aren't upset any more. But don't take it out on the other members of this forum.

Perhaps if you spent less time worrying about one's selection of tools and more time worrying about one's skill-set you'd be a bit happier. Perhaps if you spent less time worrying about other people's choices and more about your own, you'd be a bit happier. :stickpoke

Just sayin'.

[aussiefab]

from where im standing it seems;

-you turn up with an old box, but its full of starret, moore and wright, mityuto gear. this shows you have a bit of pride in your tools and that your there to produce quality work

-you turn up with a harbour freight box with harbour frieght calipers and mics. not saying that harbour frieght makes bad stuff, but the starret etc lasts a lot longer. if i saw a guy walking in with it, i'd give him some time to sort his stuff out, get used to the shop and what not. i'd assess whether he is any good iif so then i'd keep him and then tell him to start upgrading. just because someone has a craftsmen box doesn't mean there not serious about their job, they could be less fortunate than you sdcnc, if he turns up with a craftsmen box WITH the stickers and toys, then yeah i'd be thinking otherwise.

i was fortunate enough to inheret my grandfathers old tools, not mics or anything but files, hacksaws, hand tools. my fathers mate is hooking me up with his old starret gear he used, thats if i get an apprenticeship.

now, i got nothing on you guys in terms of experience, im 17 years old and have spent two weeks of work experience is different places and some guys have flashy kinchrome boxs, some have a run down cupboard, the old blokes all had cupboards

[SanDiegoCNC]

...just because someone has a craftsmen box doesn't mean there not serious about their job, they could be less fortunate than you sdcnc...

Aussie, what does that mean? I hate to assume anything but it seems as if your meaning is that I had it easy or was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

I paid my own way through trade school. Not that I had to, but I wanted to do it that way because I'm the type of person that would put forth more effort if its my money instead of some grant, etc.

I've seen a lot of funny things with tool boxes in machine shops over the years... toys glued to them, stupid stickers all over them, stereos mounted in them, porn magazines stacked on 'em, small microwaves under the riser, just pure crap. Just remember the old saying, 'you never get a second chance to make a first impression'. That's especially true when customers see that stuff. Try explaining that away to military brass when they walk through your shop. Oh, a lot of brass are females too.

Good luck with becoming a machinist.:cheers:

[dertsap]

I paid my own way through trade school. :

really ? wow
that must have cost you what 3 , 4 hundred dollars

[Rekd]

if i saw a guy walking in with it, i'd give him some time to sort his stuff out, get used to the shop and what not. i'd assess whether he is any good

But you would judge him/her on his/her qualifications and skill, not by what's in their box. In SDCNC's lonely little world they wouldn't even get that opportunity.

And Heaven forbid a customer came in and saw that un-ruly long-haired guy with the tool box that had (gasp) stickers on it! (nuts)

really ? wow

I was just as amazed.

[aussiefab]

im not saying anyone has had it easy, or assumming anything. but some are brought inot this world alot less fortunate than us, so if they a craftsman box i wouldn't judge him

i agree with you sdcnc, a guy with cheap tools is a bit iffy but then again, i've spent a total of 2 weeks in machine shops so what i say is zilch

but if i saw a guy walk in with a box covered in cars and stickers, craftsmen or kennedy he'd be out, i havent seen much at 17 but i know these guys arent worth the effort

[extanker59]

but if i saw a guy walk in with a box covered in cars and stickers, craftsmen or kennedy he'd be out, i havent seen much at 17 but i know these guys arent worth the effort

Come on aussiefab. What if they are just big fans of whatever stickers they have? Sports team stickers OK but not cars? Where do you draw the line of judging people by their looks rather than what they can do? Style over substance? You're 17, don't start off by joining sdcnc in arrogance and predudice. Start off with an open mind, willing to learn from all sorts of people.

[Boots]

You only need two tools. A flatblade screwdriver and a Ballpeen hammer.
The screwdriver is used to pry any raise you might get out of the Boss.
The hammer is to be used on his knee caps if you don't get it.
Regards,

[SanDiegoCNC]

really ? wow
that must have cost you what 3 , 4 hundred dollars

You have nothing to add to the conversation, do you? Just wasting time talking trash, huh?

[SanDiegoCNC]

Come on aussiefab. What if they are just big fans of whatever stickers they have? Sports team stickers OK but not cars? Where do you draw the line of judging people by their looks rather than what they can do? Style over substance? You're 17, don't start off by joining sdcnc in arrogance and predudice. Start off with an open mind, willing to learn from all sorts of people.

Stickers, toys, etc. are for the home... not the workplace. By refusing to have any sort of set standards in a shop, you'll end up with no standards at all.

Judging by your SN, am I correct in assuming you were once active duty?

[extanker59]

Yes I was. But that has nothing to do with this conversation. Wait. Maybe it does. I have some pics of my buddies and (old) tanks from the service on my box. Does that mean I'm a bad machinist or unprofessional? Nonsense. Just my outside interests. Does a person who has a team sticker on his car a bad driver?
Listen (read?), this has gotten out of hand. I don't know you and I can't judge your qualities from this post. You seem to try to help when you can. I just find it amazing and indefensible to judge someone's machining talent from his box. He could have a family that takes his extra (if any) cash. Furthermore, I've never seen an employer who gave a rat's ass what kind of box he had as long as the parts were good and fast. Maybe your point is that there ARE employers like that out there? So prepare by buying a pretty box? I very much disagree.

[cncnitro]

I personally don't judge a man by his tool box. When I started out my first box was a craftsman mechanic's hand carry box. Now it's a Kennedy, and it's graced
with some stickers. One sticker has a pic of Uncle Sam stating "DON'T f@#k with UNCLE SAM". One is an eagle head with red,white, and blue flames. Another is a good o'l America flag. Should I remove those from my box?