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    SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help

    I just go my new 1983 SL-3 up and running. It has the Yasnac LX-1 controller. I'd like to see the programs that are stored in the machine so I can learn from them. From the Alarm page I can see that there are two programs, but I can't figure out how to view them. I don't have a programming manual. I hope someone can help.

    After I get past that hurdle, I want to start writing my own programs. I'll start from the console and later move to a PC via the RS232 port. For now just the console operation. How do I type in and store a program?

    If anybody has a programmers manual, cheap, let me know. Or, a quick reply to get me started would be greatly appreciated.

    Greg

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    Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help

    Hello Greg, Welcome to the Yasnac experience....Instructions below should get you started.
    Program Load-
    -Turn the key on the left side of the control all the way to the right. This unlocks editing.
    -Turn the controller mode knob all the way to the left (to EDIT)
    -Press PRG Button(Program)
    -Type O0500(program number example)
    -Then Press EOB. Make sure and start the program number with the letter O
    Now you are ready to start programming.
    -At the end of each line of code make sure and press EOB and then the "Insert" button under edit.
    -If you realize that a mistake has been made when entering the code use the space down arrow key to toggle to the location that needs to be fixed type in the correct code( which will be shown in the lower left of the screen)
    -Then Press the "Altor" button( this will replace everything in the deignated space. If things go hay wire dont be afrsaid to use the Erase buttom but make sure and identify where your curser is prior or you could end up erasing more than you need. I have gained a lot of practice with this.
    -After you've entered the code you want, press "Reset"
    -Turn the Key back to the left
    -switch the controler knob to memory
    -Press "Reset"
    Your now ready to run the program.

    I hope I didn't miss anything, I made myself a cheat sheet because the manual is so challenging to figure out.

    I haven't been running this machine very long but I'm starting to get a bit more confidence. I'm struggling with tool offsets a little because my controler doesn't have a "PRC" button. I can set tool "1" and drills no problem but addtional tools with slightly differant tip locations are giving me a little trouble. Good Luck and. I hope this helps,

    Pat

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    Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help

    Thanks, Pat! Since posting those early questions, I have figured out how to get around most of the screens. Your instructions are complete and accurate. And, you are correct, the users manual leaves a lot to the imagination. I have been able to connect my computer to the controller and communicate via RS232. I'm using Inventor HSM simply as a G-code editor and writing my code. This is a lot more user friendly, and easier than standing at the machine all day. The problem is, I do not have a good post processor for the Yasnac controller, so it's easier to simply write my code than to fix what the Fanuc post processor spits out. And so, writing code is where my challenge is currently. I can do the basics, but am trying to figure out some of the canned cycles. Getting the parameters right seems difficult, and the manual... well, you know.

    I could also use some help with the offsets. If anybody wants to help out, that would be great! My controller has several pages for offsets; numbered from 0 - 99. Some pages are labeled "Wear", others, something else, and some have no label. I don't understand the difference as it relates to this machine. It seems that only one offset gets picked up at a time, and that's the one you specify when you call up the tool i.e. T0308 calls tool 3, and offset 8. I'm using a G50 line in all my code to move the zero point to the centerline of the spindle in X, and the face of the part in Z. I then use the offset to move each tool to align with that same spot. I don't know if that's what everybody else does, but it's working. I'd love to hear other's advice.

    Greg

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    Question Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help

    Quote Originally Posted by gregorio3389 View Post
    Thanks, Pat! Since posting those early questions, I have figured out how to get around most of the screens. Your instructions are complete and accurate. And, you are correct, the users manual leaves a lot to the imagination. I have been able to connect my computer to the controller and communicate via RS232. I'm using Inventor HSM simply as a G-code editor and writing my code. This is a lot more user friendly, and easier than standing at the machine all day. The problem is, I do not have a good post processor for the Yasnac controller, so it's easier to simply write my code than to fix what the Fanuc post processor spits out. And so, writing code is where my challenge is currently. I can do the basics, but am trying to figure out some of the canned cycles. Getting the parameters right seems difficult, and the manual... well, you know.

    I could also use some help with the offsets. If anybody wants to help out, that would be great! My controller has several pages for offsets; numbered from 0 - 99. Some pages are labeled "Wear", others, something else, and some have no label. I don't understand the difference as it relates to this machine. It seems that only one offset gets picked up at a time, and that's the one you specify when you call up the tool i.e. T0308 calls tool 3, and offset 8. I'm using a G50 line in all my code to move the zero point to the centerline of the spindle in X, and the face of the part in Z. I then use the offset to move each tool to align with that same spot. I don't know if that's what everybody else does, but it's working. I'd love to hear other's advice.

    Greg
    Sorry to revive an old thread.

    we got a mori seiki SL-3 with a yasnac lx1 control and i figured out most of the controls except wen running a program it tries to crash the machine, it runs right past the face of the part and keeps going twoards tha chuck, any help is appreciated, maybe my tool offsets are wrong or my program, here's what camworks spits out.

    %
    O0002
    N1 G20
    N2 M42
    N3 G50 X0 Z0 S3000
    N4 G50 T5200
    N5 G00 G97 S1000 F.0161 M08
    N6 M03
    N7 G99
    N8 G00 X-8. Z.1071
    N9 G99
    N10 X-1.0141
    N11 G01 X-.8 Z0
    N12 Z-.0755
    N13 G02 X-.9017 Z-.1091 R.8007
    N14 X-.944 Z-.1503 R.0507
    N15 G01 Z-.2091
    N16 X-1.
    N17 X-1.0141 Z-.2021
    N18 G00 X-1.2141
    N19 Z.0071
    N20 X-.6509
    N21 G01 X-.6368 Z0
    N22 Z-.0322
    N23 G02 X-.8 Z-.0755 R.8007
    N24 G01 X-.8194 Z-.0731
    N25 X-.8494
    N26 G00 X-1.0194
    N27 Z.01
    N28 X-.5555
    N29 G01 X-.4736
    N30 Z0
    N31 G02 X-.6368 Z-.0322 R.8007
    N32 G01 X-.6555 Z-.0287
    N33 G00 Z.108
    N34 X-.2728
    N35 Z.008
    N36 G01 X-.2838 Z-.0003
    N37 G02 X-.8725 Z-.1294 R.7757
    N38 X-.894 Z-.1503 R.0257
    N39 G01 Z-.2341
    N40 X-.9686
    N41 X-.9827 Z-.2271
    N42 G51 G00 X-1.1827 M09
    N43 M30
    %

    Attachment 451590

    part origin is set up at the front of the part but its just not working. i have 7 years experience with fadal but its my first time using a lathe.

    thanks in advance.

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    Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help

    Quote Originally Posted by jack123529 View Post
    Sorry to revive an old thread.

    we got a mori seiki SL-3 with a yasnac lx1 control and i figured out most of the controls except wen running a program it tries to crash the machine, it runs right past the face of the part and keeps going twoards tha chuck, any help is appreciated, maybe my tool offsets are wrong or my program, here's what camworks spits out.

    %
    O0002
    N1 G20
    N2 M42
    N3 G50 X0 Z0 S3000
    N4 G50 T5200
    N5 G00 G97 S1000 F.0161 M08
    N6 M03
    N7 G99
    N8 G00 X-8. Z.1071
    N9 G99
    N10 X-1.0141
    N11 G01 X-.8 Z0
    N12 Z-.0755
    N13 G02 X-.9017 Z-.1091 R.8007
    N14 X-.944 Z-.1503 R.0507
    N15 G01 Z-.2091
    N16 X-1.
    N17 X-1.0141 Z-.2021
    N18 G00 X-1.2141
    N19 Z.0071
    N20 X-.6509
    N21 G01 X-.6368 Z0
    N22 Z-.0322
    N23 G02 X-.8 Z-.0755 R.8007
    N24 G01 X-.8194 Z-.0731
    N25 X-.8494
    N26 G00 X-1.0194
    N27 Z.01
    N28 X-.5555
    N29 G01 X-.4736
    N30 Z0
    N31 G02 X-.6368 Z-.0322 R.8007
    N32 G01 X-.6555 Z-.0287
    N33 G00 Z.108
    N34 X-.2728
    N35 Z.008
    N36 G01 X-.2838 Z-.0003
    N37 G02 X-.8725 Z-.1294 R.7757
    N38 X-.894 Z-.1503 R.0257
    N39 G01 Z-.2341
    N40 X-.9686
    N41 X-.9827 Z-.2271
    N42 G51 G00 X-1.1827 M09
    N43 M30
    %

    Attachment 451590

    part origin is set up at the front of the part but its just not working. i have 7 years experience with fadal but its my first time using a lathe.

    thanks in advance.
    i just got it to work just by poking around the controller

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