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    UCCNC and Linux

    I have taken all the butt %$@#*&(% from Microsoft I can take, and after the latest update to Windows 10 1903 it has wrecked several programs. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE, THIS WINDOWS 10 HAS TO COME OFF!!!! Ahh that feels better.

    I am currently running Win 10 with Win 7 in a VMWare virtual OS, to do various things, but I want to replace the Win 10 with Linux, and still run all my programs for the CNC natively from Linux.

    Will the UCCNC software work with Linux, or am I going to have to run it from a virtual Win 7 OS? I just can't handle a PC that restarts itself and updates itself as it pleases. I need to get back to a stable main OS.
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
    I have taken all the butt %$@#*&(% from Microsoft I can take, and after the latest update to Windows 10 1903 it has wrecked several programs. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE, THIS WINDOWS 10 HAS TO COME OFF!!!! Ahh that feels better.

    I am currently running Win 10 with Win 7 in a VMWare virtual OS, to do various things, but I want to replace the Win 10 with Linux, and still run all my programs for the CNC natively from Linux.

    Will the UCCNC software work with Linux, or am I going to have to run it from a virtual Win 7 OS? I just can't handle a PC that restarts itself and updates itself as it pleases. I need to get back to a stable main OS.
    You can disable the Windows updates in Windows 7 and then it will never download updates and will never update anything and will never restart itself.
    You do not have to install Linux for that, just install Windows 7 and disable the updates.

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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by OlfCNC View Post
    You can disable the Windows updates in Windows 7 and then it will never download updates and will never update anything and will never restart itself.
    You do not have to install Linux for that, just install Windows 7 and disable the updates.
    No my issue isn't with Win 7, I know I can control it to a large degree, my issue is with the abomination that is Win 10. I bought a new laptop recently to replace my old Win 7 laptop and it came pre installed with Win 10. Due to the back room deal between MS and Intel you can't downgrade to Win 7 because the hardware just won't let you. I am so over Win 10 now. I want to put the Linux on the bare metal so I have an OS that won't reboot the PC at will like Windows 10 does. With Win 10 they have removed the option to stop updates, so they are forced on you, and then it reboots as it sees fit.

    If I put Linux on the bare metal I can still use VMWare Workstation to run my virtual Win 7 like I do now. But I am currently running my drawing program, my CAD / CAM and UCCNC all from Windows 10. I would like to run UCCNC directly on Linux if that is possible, otherwise I will run it on the virtual Win 7, but either way Win 10 has to go.
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Can't you just partition the hard drive cleaning Windows 10 off and installing Windows 7.? I mean instead of downgrading just deleting Windows 10 and installing 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlfCNC View Post
    Can't you just partition the hard drive cleaning Windows 10 off and installing Windows 7.? I mean instead of downgrading just deleting Windows 10 and installing 7?
    Nope the new Intel processors won't physically allow you to install Win 7 on the bare metal, otherwise Win 10 would have been gone day 1.
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Why don't you look at Linuxcnc and be done with it? I have to say I used to love Windows but I truly hate it now!
    Rod Webster
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Before doing anything it might be worth downloading a Linux distro that will run live.Once up and running you can try installing UCCNC under Wine.If it works-problem solved.If not you haven't lost too much.If what I have outlined appears to be gibberish you may need to do a little homework first.

    Alternatively,take a look at LinuxCNC.

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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by routalot View Post
    Before doing anything it might be worth downloading a Linux distro that will run live.Once up and running you can try installing UCCNC under Wine.If it works-problem solved.If not you haven't lost too much.If what I have outlined appears to be gibberish you may need to do a little homework first.

    Alternatively,take a look at LinuxCNC.
    So there is no native Linux version of UCCNC?
    No problems running it emulated if need be. I actually have an old touch screen cash register computer a friend gave me some time ago. Maybe it is time to put XP on it and switch over to my UC300ETH-5LPT
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    be aware of the computing power uccnc needs. i had tried 2 older dual core computers but uccnc would occasionally not find the eth400 board on startup. cncdrive said that can happen, a dual core is right on the border of computing power needed.
    michael

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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
    So there is no native Linux version of UCCNC?
    No problems running it emulated if need be. I actually have an old touch screen cash register computer a friend gave me some time ago. Maybe it is time to put XP on it and switch over to my UC300ETH-5LPT
    I tried a quick search and found nothing to suggest that here might be a Linux version.I would suggest,as others have,that you might try downloading LinuxCNC and giving it a trial as a live installation to see if it might be suitable for your purposes.You won't be finding too many businesses recommending it because its a free piece of software and there isn't any money to be made from it.As I said in my last posting the possibility of re-partitioning your HD exists in addition to running windows software under Wine.I haven't yet found anything that won't run under Wine but I tend to use Windows software as a solution of last resort.There are still people who seem to believe that Linux is still dominated by a control line interface and while it can be run this way there are distros that look and feel just like Windows for those who like to familiar interface.They just carry less bloatware and have a great record of stability.Take a look at DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. . For hardware that isn't the latest and greatest ,something like Xubuntu might be good and it was the distro that LinuxCNC was provided with.

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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by neptunier View Post
    be aware of the computing power uccnc needs. i had tried 2 older dual core computers but uccnc would occasionally not find the eth400 board on startup. cncdrive said that can happen, a dual core is right on the border of computing power needed.
    michael
    All good got plenty of processing and RAM.
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    Re: UCCNC and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by routalot View Post
    I tried a quick search and found nothing to suggest that here might be a Linux version.I would suggest,as others have,that you might try downloading LinuxCNC and giving it a trial as a live installation to see if it might be suitable for your purposes.You won't be finding too many businesses recommending it because its a free piece of software and there isn't any money to be made from it.As I said in my last posting the possibility of re-partitioning your HD exists in addition to running windows software under Wine.I haven't yet found anything that won't run under Wine but I tend to use Windows software as a solution of last resort.There are still people who seem to believe that Linux is still dominated by a control line interface and while it can be run this way there are distros that look and feel just like Windows for those who like to familiar interface.They just carry less bloatware and have a great record of stability.Take a look at DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. . For hardware that isn't the latest and greatest ,something like Xubuntu might be good and it was the distro that LinuxCNC was provided with.
    I wanted Windows 10 gone so I blew away the whole drive and did a clean install of Mint 19.1. Went to the VMWare website and just downloaded the Linux version of Workstation 15 and fired back up my Windows 7 virtual machine. It might be easier just to setup a few different virtual machines for specific uses. Not that I think I will ever want Windows 10 back on the PC but I have the recovery USB I can install to a virtual machine if I really need to. I made sure to get the OEM key before I blew it away. I previously tried running UCCNC from the virtual machine and it was fine. Can always have a look at LinuxCNC now I have Linux installed.
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