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Also, just for the record there are Moris, Okuma's, Makino's and others netting a whole lot more than 2k today while the lights are out and the owner is enjoying his Sunday other than in the shop and...

I don't own Haas machines. I have run them in the past. I saw this post when it was posted with the Matsura subject line and I did not realize it was the Haas fan club. It is easy to attack the...

No problem. I thought it was a place to post opinions. I didn't realize is was a fraternity of Haas users. It's not necessary to go into all of the get a life stuff. Haas is the best machine is the...

Everyone wants to pick on poor Haas because they envy or covet there position. I can assure you that is not the case of people that work with high productivity companies. World class marketing- Go to...

Which motors do they use? How is the selection made?
Haas publishes price to be noble and straight forward or maybe like most companies, they publish their strogest points and base price is a strong...

Haas does not use Yaskawa. They use Lincoln Electric.
They do not publish information like this along with spindle or drive tourque curve charts. It is true that Haas would be good for someone...

I doubt anyone is working for Matsura and promoting a tiger, when they don't even make standard verticals anymore. The tiger will be far better built and if he grows, he will make more parts, faster...

Matsura's are built to last and I see many old ones still. Haas, although they have a big following are not even close to being in the same class. The Matsura, even though it is a smaller taper will...

That is not too bad for todays used machine prices. You should be able to get a new one for less than twice that with warranty. I have heard Kia's service is not the greatest but in falls into 2-3rd...

I know you probably like the control, but if you are doing any sort of production, this would be a chance to look at some good quality lathes.

Curious if you made a decision yet.
Just like to keep a pulse on what others are finding important to them. What does delivery look like?

You can get a 2 year warranty on the Doosan as well. It is just an added cost instead of adding into the cost automatically. If this is important to you, ask the salesmen to quote it. With Mori...

If you want a Saleperson, than find a good one and find a way to make it worth their while to bring work into the shop. A farmer is a good way to put it but Farmers often need to cover farming costs....

The numbers will vary from dealer to dealer based on overhead. There may be a case where the Mori configuaration would work but Doosan had to go with the higher end box way, heavy horsepower 4 digit...

Mori has many different configuarations and it is tough to keep track of them all. It is the resposibility of the distributor to match the correct machine for the application but if price is a large...

I can assure you that a apples to apples box way machine from Mori compared to Doosan will be much greater than 8k difference. If 8k is the difference the solution is not the best they have to offer....

It looks like there are much cheaper solutions that would fit the bill. The bare casting and control alone on the machines I offer would be more than 30k in cost. Maybe look at Haas benchtop...

Just to clarify the Doosan Puma has no rigidity issues in the toughest materials and it is box way. The Mori is the ultimate in all ways but in most cases you will have a tough time putting the cost...

Great choice of machine tool. Doosan Puma's are at the top of the mountain in price of performance right now. That is something that is changing often but today they are the best.
The difference...

I have a machine that will do this no problem. I don't know what kind of budget is in place but you can email me at [email protected] and we can talk more about what we have for this application....

You just need to slightly modigy the toolchaner on most I believe. There should be no issue other than that.

Sorry did not see the lack of support for Makino. It is surprising as they are highly supported in North America. Based on that, I would go AGIE as well but you will have to sift through the product...

This is up for debate as Agie makes a very good product but I will put Makino against Agie any day. Both Agie and Makino are ahead of the rest in technology and ability in the most difficult...

And yes Makino should be on here before brideport/hardinge who has just become a cheap Tawian offering for Okuma dealers.
Makino would get my vote as well for what they do in terms of engineering,...

The problem is that the people who run them do not usually have the luxury of running apples to apples comparisons to each machine. If you work in a shop that buys a new haas and the other machines...

In Japan they have large trading companies (kind of like alliances that buy within each other). Often a product is developed to meet the need of another company within the organization. After they...

According to several people I know that have changed from Hyundai to Doosan since 05 when they merged with Daewoo, the Doosan is a much more rigid machine. Doosan Puma's are high end box way...

Hyndaui has nothing to do with Doosan except they are both Korean and that is where the similarities end. Doosan builds large construction equipment like Deere and Catepillar. Hyndaui builds cars....

Are looking to buy an EDM to do this or send it out to be done? A used machine might be the best option if your looking for low cost.

For parts that size a Y is going to step you up into more expensive machines by a significant amount. Doosan has a machine with milling for under 100k. If you want a Y axis machine of that size, you...