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    Not sure where to go from here

    Hi,
    I finally completed the build of my Busy Bee Mini-mill. I wired everything together and setup Mach3 according to the instructions provided by Automation Techologies. But no matter what I do, I'm not getting an movement or signs of life.

    I bought this set: 3-Axis NEMA23,34 Stepper Motor Upgrade Kit (1x 906oz/in, 2x570oz/in, 3 Digital Stepper Drivers, etc)

    I have a green light on the KL-5056D driver. But when I try to run a sample code in the wizard (cut a circle) or send some lines of code...nothing.

    I have a code file with:

    G00 x1.00
    Goo z1.00

    (note I need to check the wiring on the Y axis. I was getting a 1 blink per 3 seconds so I think I wired something wrong there. So I unplugged it)....

    But the others should move?

    I went over my wiring of the driver and board and everything looks fine.

    Not sure where to look?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

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    Do you have the port settings to Mach 3 correct?
    Can you use the arrow and up and down keys to jog the machine?
    Lee

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    Forgot to add. For what it's worth I have the DIP switches setup in the following manner for both the Nem23 and Nem34

    Current = 2.1A /1.5A (SW1 on)

    Pulse/Rev = 800 (SW7 & SW8 on)

    I'm hoping someone with the same setup can forward their settings. These are
    KL-5056D Digital Drivers (5.6Amp 24-50 Volts, 1-1/256 microstepping)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeWay View Post
    Do you have the port settings to Mach 3 correct?
    Can you use the arrow and up and down keys to jog the machine?
    Yes, that was the first thing I checked. 0x378 the standard LPT1

    But that makes me wonder if the cable is good. I bought a standard parrell Port cable with two male ends off ebay. Brand new... but I don't think I need anything special? I'm also running a desktop computer with a build in LPT port and with XP SP3

    Yes, I tried to Job the machine...nothing

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    On your cable, you can check that it is a straight pass through cable with a multimeter.

    There are quite a few cables that are not like this and those will not work.
    I have a couple.

    Is the Reset button on Mach Flashing?
    Get it to where it isn't flashing and try to jog again.
    Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddragon View Post
    Forgot to add. For what it's worth I have the DIP switches setup in the following manner for both the Nem23 and Nem34

    Current = 2.1A /1.5A (SW1 on)

    Pulse/Rev = 800 (SW7 & SW8 on)

    I'm hoping someone with the same setup can forward their settings. These are
    KL-5056D Digital Drivers (5.6Amp 24-50 Volts, 1-1/256 microstepping)

    Your dips are wrong, review what I told you here.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bencht..._dl-5056d.html
    Have a peek here too to make sure you com jumper is correct.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/1182109-post3835.html
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeWay View Post
    On your cable, you can check that it is a straight pass through cable with a multimeter.

    There are quite a few cables that are not like this and those will not work.
    I have a couple.

    Is the Reset button on Mach Flashing?
    Get it to where it isn't flashing and try to jog again.
    It needs to be a straight pass? I'll check this. I'm sure it is... but you never know.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Your dips are wrong, review what I told you here.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bencht..._dl-5056d.html
    Have a peek here too to make sure you com jumper is correct.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/1182109-post3835.html
    Hoss
    Thanks Hoss... I'll take a look again.
    Let you know if I have any questions.

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    IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

    THANK YOU HOSS.
    I forgot about the previous post where you gave me the DIP switch settings. Once I checked all those settings and fixed it... it works now when I "jog" it with the up down and arrow keys.

    BOY... I really can't describe how I feel now. You should see the smile on my face!

    Just got to figure out what I did wrong with the wiring of the Nem34 now. That one confused me a bit.

    Anyway... for tomorrow.
    But now I have life.

    Thank you everyone!

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    Congrats! I remember that feeling, It's like magic to push a key and the mill responds the first time.
    Time to have some fun now, any problems just ask us.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    WELL... apparently I'm color blind because I had the Nem34 wired wrong... I mixed up the yellow and the white wires on the Nem34... and apparently I indicated yellow on my notes when it should have been white.

    So... now the Y axis work :-)

    I'm a happy camper

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Congrats! I remember that feeling, It's like magic to push a key and the mill responds the first time.
    Time to have some fun now, any problems just ask us.
    Hoss
    That's EXACTLY what it feels like MAGIC.

    If I can relate something... I also fly model RC helicopters (which is why I'm building this) and I have a 5 foot TURBINE powered helicopter. Now, this is a REAL jet engine that runs on Jet Fuel, sounds exactly like a full size jet engine.

    Well, whenever I fly it there is this HUGE smile... I mean I can't believe this thing is actually flying... it just amazes me each time. The kids are like... Big deal dad... it must be an age thing... but that's the same sort of magical feeling I get when I push those buttons and the mill goes up and down or moves around.

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    Cool! You have any videos of the jet engine or the heli?
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    No nothing I'm afraid. I'm usually fly it but never think to take any.

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    Excellent news. Glad you got it figured out. Next steps, calibrating.
    Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddragon View Post
    No nothing I'm afraid. I'm usually fly it but never think to take any.
    Even photos of it sitting still on the floor would be drool worthy.

    bob

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    Here's a link to my "small" turbine. It's the maiden flight and I was working out the weight distribution etc. I's only 4 feet long. But it gives you the idea.

    Trex744 WITHOUT sound track - YouTube

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    Hoss, I have a question for you. The DIP switch settings. When I look at them set the drivers pulse/rev to 400. Is that correct? Your calculations are based on a 10 TPI but I have a 5 TPI (I measured and counted 5 thread per inch to be sure).

    So I'm thinking that the calculation should be:

    200 (steps per rev) x 5 (TPI) x 2 (1/2 micro setting) = 2000

    On the KL-5056D to make the pulse/rev 2000 I would set:

    5-off
    6-on
    7-on
    8-off

    Just wondering if I have that right. Trying to calculate and apply to the machine itself.

    But the strange thing is when I move any axis 1 until (go x1) It moves about 1/4 inch maybe a little less. If I have this right should it move one full inch?

    Or maybe my calculations are wrong? Need to do more reading.

    Thanks. I'll see if I can find more pictures. I have a video of the big one on the camera, but I haven't taken it off yet.

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    Heli-Sweet!

    That is one BADA$$ heli. I have been working on jets for 25 years and that is one cool project. I have seen some jet engine projects but that one takes the cake.
    Sweet!!

    Chris

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    Thanks Chris, I didn't build the engine. I just assembled everything from what is already out there. Had some fabrication to do to get the jet engine to fit in the airframe for a electric helicopter and of course the weight difference is about 10 pounds. The small one seen there weights 13 pounds. My big one weights almost 20 pounds and has a main rotor span of 5 feet.

    I'll try to find some pics or video of that one. It's impressive.

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