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  1. #1
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    How to cut this?

    How would I go about cutting a part this shape?

    I have bobcad V21 and it seems to have three cutting path strategies.
    1) A linear back and forth pattern.
    2) a Radial pattern that moves from the center out to the edge or vice versa.
    and
    3) A spiral pattern

    So these are my questions.
    1) Is there some way to do this easily with just the G code? I have done some basic G coding. The straight line parts of it I get how to do, but can I say, "do a straight line from this point to that point then make 90 degrees of a .250 radius and then go to this other point?

    2) Is there a way to have BobCad actually follow a path like that?

    or 3) Can I just use a small cutter and use say the radial pattern and have it cut that notch that way?

    It is a gasket channel, so it should be pretty smooth...
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  2. #2
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    What's the part look like? Did you forget to attached a picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorpydo View Post
    What's the part look like? Did you forget to attached a picture?
    Yep, thanks for the heads up ;-)

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    I'm a lazy sod and would just specify the dimensions in Mach.....Although that part is a doddle even for a noobcake like me in Bobcad.....What dimensions is it?
    Keith

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    it's 2" per side. The channel in .125 wide.

    The part is just a test for a much more complicated part I want to make. But I want
    to make sure I get how to do this part of it, either via bobcad or by injecting the appropriate G code into the script that bobcad spits out.

  6. #6
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    Hey There! Is that an O Ring Groove? If it is, You should use a Ball End Mill. It looks to be .250 Wide? You Could offset all of your lines to 1/2 of the width and run your toolpath with cutter comp.off;picking the center line as your tool path...but you should know the size of the O ring first. They have specs for width/depth ect. Here is a site that has that sort of info. Navagate to the O Ring Sizing Chart.
    http://www.marcorubber.com/

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    Try this Bobcad file if it helps. It has the toolpath and geometry in it (Metric though)
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Keith

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5artist5 View Post
    How would I go about cutting a part this shape?

    I have bobcad V21 and it seems to have three cutting path strategies.
    1) A linear back and forth pattern.
    2) a Radial pattern that moves from the center out to the edge or vice versa.
    and
    3) A spiral pattern

    So these are my questions.
    1) Is there some way to do this easily with just the G code? I have done some basic G coding. The straight line parts of it I get how to do, but can I say, "do a straight line from this point to that point then make 90 degrees of a .250 radius and then go to this other point?

    2) Is there a way to have BobCad actually follow a path like that?

    or 3) Can I just use a small cutter and use say the radial pattern and have it cut that notch that way?

    It is a gasket channel, so it should be pretty smooth...
    I don't know BobCAD, but I'm sure it must have a way of doing that. However, if you want to program it manually, you need to use G02 or G03 commands. The arguments are the endpoint of the move, as X/Y coordinates, and the centerpoint of the arc, as the I/J parameters. I/J as usually specified as relative offsets from the starting position, but this is settable in Config->GeneralConfig. G02 cuts a clockwise arc, while G03 cuts a counter-clockwise arc. For example:

    G02 X2.00 Y0.00 I1.00 J0.00

    If you start a X0.00 Y0.00, the above will cut a 180 degree arc starting at X0.00, Y0.00, ending at X2.00, Y0.00, with the arc center being at X1.00, Y0.00. The I parameter is added to the current X position to give the X coordinate of the centerpoint, while the J parameter is added to the current Y position to give the Y coordinate of the centerpoint

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Ok I think I get it, so then if I do this:

    G01 X-0.75 Y0.9375
    X0.75 Y0.9375
    G02 X0.9375 Y0.75 I0.75 J0.75
    X0.9375 Y-0.75
    G02 X0.75 Y-0.9375 I0.75 J-0.75
    X-0.75 Y-0.9375
    G02 X-0.9375 Y-0.75 I-0.75 J-0.75
    X-0.9375 Y0.75
    G02 X-0.75 Y0.9375 I-0.75 J0.75

    I will come out with that shape then?

    Thanks guys. That G2/G3 thing is exactly what I was looking for.
    Also I looked at that bobcad file and that seemed like what I was looking for too

    Thanks for all the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5artist5 View Post
    Ok I think I get it, so then if I do this:

    G01 X-0.75 Y0.9375
    X0.75 Y0.9375
    G02 X0.9375 Y0.75 I0.75 J0.75
    X0.9375 Y-0.75
    G02 X0.75 Y-0.9375 I0.75 J-0.75
    X-0.75 Y-0.9375
    G02 X-0.9375 Y-0.75 I-0.75 J-0.75
    X-0.9375 Y0.75
    G02 X-0.75 Y0.9375 I-0.75 J0.75

    I will come out with that shape then?

    Thanks guys. That G2/G3 thing is exactly what I was looking for.
    Also I looked at that bobcad file and that seemed like what I was looking for too

    Thanks for all the help!
    Close, but not quite. What you want is:

    G90
    F200
    G01 X-0.75 Y0.9375
    G01 X0.75 Y0.9375
    G02 X0.9375 Y0.75 I0.00 J-0.1875
    G01 X0.9375 Y-0.75
    G02 X0.75 Y-0.9375 I-0.1875 J0.00
    G01 X-0.75 Y-0.9375
    G02 X-0.9375 Y-0.75 I0.00 J0.1875
    G01 X-0.9375 Y0.75
    G02 X-0.75 Y0.9375 I0.1875 J0.00

    G00/G01/G02/G03 are all modal, so whichever one you used last, persists until you specify another explicitly. Also, I and J are incremental, from the starting point of the arc.

    You can load this into Mach3, and "run" it with the machine turned off, or on a PC with no machine attached at all, and see the result in the toolpath display.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Oh ok I see.

    Thank you so much for the lesson!

    I really think it is amazing that there are boards like this with people who are willing to help people to learn things that may otherwise be difficult to figure out. I am ma member of several different types of boards and I think that this kind of information exchange is really the most valuable type of resource that the internet and possibly technology itself has to offer.

    So thanks everyone, I really appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5artist5 View Post
    Oh ok I see.

    Thank you so much for the lesson!

    I really think it is amazing that there are boards like this with people who are willing to help people to learn things that may otherwise be difficult to figure out. I am ma member of several different types of boards and I think that this kind of information exchange is really the most valuable type of resource that the internet and possibly technology itself has to offer.

    So thanks everyone, I really appreciate it!


    Ray's not only a smart cookie, but he's a good dude as well-

    Thanks for the lesson, as well, Ray-

    Dave
    Dave->..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fretsman View Post
    Ray's not only a smart cookie, but he's a good dude as well-

    Thanks for the lesson, as well, Ray-

    Dave
    Dave,

    Thanks! :-)

    Regards,
    Ray L.

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by 5artist5 View Post

    That G2/G3 thing is exactly what I was looking for.
    Here's a cheat sheet I've kept on hand for a long time, it's for the typical G17 XY plane.
    Hoss
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails G02 G03 gcode movements G17 XY Plane.jpg  
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