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  1. #1
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    Is the Turret available yet?

    I still don't see the 8-station Turret option listed for sale on TORMACH's website.
    Does anyone know if the Turret is available yet?
    Or WHEN it will be ready?
    .......
    (Posted 8-25-'14)

  2. #2
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    I've been told that turrets are in stock but won't be sold until the full lathe enclosure is ready and that is not expected until the end of the year. Bummer...

    Mike

  3. #3
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    I've heard the same thing. As soon as it is ready, I'm definitely ready to buy it! C'mon Tormach....

  4. #4
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    Does anybody have a guess how much the turret option might be? Few thousand?

    Can't imagine Tormach going too high because then other options for a machine start to pop up.

    I like the footprint of the lathe and currently have a semi production part that would fit nicely on it.

  5. #5
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    hmm, I hope Tormach brings in their turret for a lot cheaper than this:

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    Grizzly.com

    $4750. Ouch.

    Note the icon in the middle of the turret... same as on the Tormach turret. Anybody know a brand using that icon? Kind of a C-B?

    And here is tormach's turret (from handverker's blog):

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    handverker: tormach open house pt2

    hmm, and here is another weird Grizzly entry. $3500 for an 8 position lathe turret with PLC controller. No picture, but it says it is in stock. That is a better price; I hope Tormach can beat it by $700-1000. Micro kinetics sells a little 6 tool turret for $2000.

    Grizzly.com

  6. #6
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    Why would GRIZZLY sell a Turret without offering a CNC Lathe to put it in?
    Very strange.

  7. #7
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    It is very strange. They have two models (100mm and 150 mm), plus the one with no picture.

    Although they do sell flashcut retrofit kits for some of their manual mills, and rotary table for centroid machines.

    There are a lot of hits now when you search "cnc" on their website, which is very strange; usually they don't put any new machines on their website until 1 Jan every year when their print catalog comes out. Not in the catalog, not on their site has been their approach in the past. Maybe they are trying to expand their cnc footprint; they did once before with an aborted offering of the Sieg KX1/KX3 machine back in 2008 or so.

    Back OT, I was just posting because I saw this as maybe a potential price range for the Tormach turret. Tormach is on record as saying a "fully outfitted lathe" with enclosure and turret would be close to $20k. Do the math: $11.5k + $3.5k (turret) + $1k (enclosure) = $16k. Where does the other $4k go?

    Even Haas sells their TM-1 turret for only $3500. Of course that is only a 4 position, but adding positions shouldn't increase price that much.

    I hope their enclosure is only about $1000 extra, since it looks pretty simple to build (as compared to their new 1100 $2500 enclosure).

    Its on my list, but I really want a full enclosure, not the chip guard.

  8. #8
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    they did once before with an aborted offering of the Sieg KX1/KX3 machine back in 2008 or so
    And don't forget their G0618 CNC Mill For $35,000.
    I could buy a used HAAS VF-1 or VF-2 for that price.
    .
    GRIZZLY.CNC-Mill-w-12-Position-ATC/G0618

  9. #9
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by RussMachine View Post
    I could buy a used HAAS VF-1 or VF-2 for that price.
    Thats just not fair.

    How about apples to apples.

    You could buy a NEW Haas TM2P for that price, which is fairly comparable.

    Or a NEW Haas mini.

    I know which machine I would rather have in my shop...
    Tim
    Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.

  10. #10
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    Re: Is the Turret available yet?

    If anyone is interested, this is probably the turret that Tormach (and Grizzly) are importing, the BWD-63 (or BWD-80 or BWD-100). Like many Chinese tools, the same pattern is made by a number of Chinese manufacturers. The "CB" logo doesn't seem to identify the manufacturer, as I found a number of different Chinese manufacturers advertising the same turret with the same logo. Perhaps it is like the ubiquitous "M" cast into milling machines; originally stood for Meehanite casting, but Chinese companies just blindly copied it and the M showed up on cheap machinery (without the Meehanite process). Maybe a corruption of the Baruffaldi turret logo?

    Tool Turret BWD - China Tool Turret, Turret
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...814758959.html (third turret from the left)

    It is available in three sizes: 63, 80, and 100 mm (height above cross slide). ATRUMP imports them for their lathes, here is the instruction manual:
    http://www.atrump.com/upload/downloa...5135903502.pdf
    Tim
    Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.

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