[Haas_Apps]

What features or options do you wish your Haas machine had?

[gar]

060707-0604 EST USA

Haas-Apps:

In SCALING provide independent scaling for each axis.

Make RTS (pin 4) positive (asserted) only when HAAS is in a mode to receive RS232 data.

Process DPRNT at machine execution time, rather than in lookahead. Same for variable equates, and maybe a way to define when calculations are performed.

Cleanup all your problems in COMMENTS and DPRNT.

Too many DPRNTs too quick produces a HAAS fault and an erroneous error message.

Provide complete and accurate descriptions and definitions in your manual. Provide more complete electrical diagrams.

Haas applications should not tell me that RTS and CTS are used when the machine is in software handshake mode. My tests indicated these are not.

You need internally a data base to reference that includes bug information and their relationship to software levels so that you can provide accurate infomation to customers on problems.

Your warmup compensation is apparently totally in the background so I can not look at variables and observe what is happening. Probably the same for your algorithmic compensation. This I brought up in the thread on a lathe problem with excessive drift in part size, 0.012". In retrospect that thread was probably about your algorithmic compensation rather than warmup compensation. But it was not clear at the beginning.

The X-axis motor, encoder, and limit switch cables should be covered with a plastic that does not have a plasticizer that leaches out making the plastic brittle.

The edges of the coolant drip pan should be 45 deg instead of 90 deg so that when I blow coolant out that it is not reflected back to me.

In your manual (edit) should (end edit) define the combination of items that makes up spindle position. For example --- warmup compensation + G52 + G5x + tool offset + tool wear. And maybe there is more. Warmup compensation shows up nowhere except it has an effect that you can not track.

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[JPMach]

I wish that the engrave command had more varibales such as letter spacing. Its too dificult to make taller letters fit in a defined box on a part. As soon as you make the letters just a little bit taller the word ends up being so long as it spaced so far apart.

I also wish that my graphics worked. every time it gets to a circular interp in graphics mode it just sits there feeding down a very small corkscrew and nothing can stop it not even e-stop or feed hold. So far no one has been able to tell me what is wrong.

JP

[gar]

060707-1058 EST USA

JPMach:

Engraving is one application where independent scaling of axes can be useful. It is also useful for making an ellipse since HAAS lacks an ellipse function.

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[JWK42]

For your mills you need a rectangle pocket cycle similar to G12/G13 round cycle. G150 won't accept variables. You need to be able to rotate with out returning to the part center every time you make a new pocket. This makes a lot of unnecessary motion on large parts.

[shawncnelson]

I like the control very much. The only thing I think I'd change is the axis-select and increment buttons. I wish they were like a Mori or Fadal with rotary knobs. It's alot easier to jog those machines around without needing to look at the control each time you want to change axis or increment amount. Like when you're jogging an edge finder up to a part, etc.

[DomB]

I like the control very much. The only thing I think I'd change is the axis-select and increment buttons. I wish they were like a Mori or Fadal with rotary knobs. It's alot easier to jog those machines around without needing to look at the control each time you want to change axis or increment amount. Like when you're jogging an edge finder up to a part, etc.

Personally I am very glad the axis select are on buttons on the control. It stops mistakes being made with a knob. You take a quick look at the knob set on x axis for example after touching up to a part, then you look down and click the knob one to the right to select yaxis, unfortunately you have clicked the x1 x10 x100 knob instead and the table moves in x 'x100 fast' and breaks the probe, it's easily done.

And when a cutter is burried in the work and you have to stop the job and retract the spindle, I know that if I press Z+ the cutter will retract upwards for sure safely, unlike with the rotary control as no matter how many times you have done it you always turn it the wrong way momentarily until you realise to turn it the other way, bye bye cutter, at least Z+ is always Z+.

If you need know controls then pay out for the remote jog handle they are all there already, and you can have the choice, even easier on the neck when it's right infront of you. But I would not want the main panel to go to knobs, too many mistakes too easy to make.

[bishb25]

I agree with JWK42. It would also be nice to define irregular pocket boundaries within the main program. Such as call the G150 line without the "P" word then follow the G150 command line with the G01, G02 and G03 pocket definitions and end the definition with some sort of cancel code similar to a G40 or G80. or at least an option use the "P" word like M97 instead of M98 if one so desires.
Also an option to automaticlly leave finish stock and finish the contour last instead of first.
The standard control needs more look ahead in program execution. This would allow the machine to prep for upcomming tool changes and such to reduce cycle time. At my shop I have to force side mount tool turret staging with "T" commands because the control is too slow. We lose minutes in cycle time waiting for the turret to find the next tool. (I realize this is impossible with umbrella style tool changers.)
Speaking of umbrella style tool changers... It would be nice to be able to power up the machine (mini mill in my case) and home the tool changer independant of the machine axis. We often find ourselve in situations where tool length and fixture hight clash under the tool changer. We compensate with fancy progamming and removing all tools at shutdown. But sometimes an operator will forget or an unexpected poweroutage will put us in a pickle. HAAS gives the option to jog without zero return why not the tool changer? Adding a list of manual tool changer commands (such as extend, retract, home...) to the user manual would also be a great help.
It would also be nice when saving offsets with the programs for the control to read the program and save only the work offsets that program actually uses instead of universal saving. Especially if I don't want to overwrite some of the other offsets when loading the program. There is also no need to save tool offsets as these will constantly change from setup to setup. This is a real pain when the operator sets his tools up before loading the program. Most places cant afford to permanently set tools in holders for one specific job. If we were that rich we would probably be buying higher end machines. For now we resort to recording the offsets we need on paper and storing them in the job file with the drawings.

HAAS_APPS,
I don't know if you still moniter this thread, but I hope you find this info useful. I know HAAS has a good history of listening to its customers and building the kind of machine they want to use. Thank you and HAAS for the hard work you do.

[1ctoolfool]

I would like a feed hold function that stops the spindle, and z up to max Z, plus a safe re-enter to the work.

Editing functions for FNC programs on the hard drive

more powerful edit functions like cut, paste, find, replace, etc.

Improved ethernet communications, current set up is very limited and hard to use, based on myself and other users comments.

by the way I love my machine, the cost and power give the little guy a chance.

joe V.

[Geof]

....more powerful edit functions like cut, paste, find, replace, etc.....joe V.

On machines since 1998 or something around there the Haas editing has these functions.

[DomB]

I would like a feed hold function that stops the spindle, and z up to max Z, plus a safe re-enter to the work.


joe V.

I wouldn't want to be around if the feed hold did that when I was using an undercutting tool or slitsaw. Ouch.

You can stop the spindle currently, just press stop on the spindle keypad, cycle start then restarts the spindle before recommencing the cut.

It would get very tedious if the spindle stopped every time you pressed feed hold, especially at 10,000rpm.

[jimzin15754]

I cut my teeth on a mazatrol eia control and grew to love the G25 subroutine call. Jumping from program to program for subs works but having it all right in front of you is way better!

[gar]

070419-1918 EST USA

jimzin15754:

What is G65?

Does a G25 have a means for passing parameters to a local subroutine?

If not, then how does it differ from M97?

I would like a G65 equivalent that calls a local subroutine.

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[makrskr]

I want the graphics to show another axis view. On an Okuma lathe, paging down will show the tool path looking at the c axis.


On a mill being able to look at the z axis tool path, instread of just the little right hand useless graph that shows up down movement.

[MYDOIT]

How hard or expensive can it be to put some kind of cover or door on the disc drive??? I used velcro sprips on a TL2 and SL30 but the 3YT opening is a little larger.

[scappini]

I agree with shawnncnelson: the increment buttons and axis select could save my neck turning quite a few times a day. I'm in 'Oz so my metric conversion of rapids of .100" are .1mm. When in home on an SL30 it is becoming more of a pain in the bu_? to bring my turret near my workpiece.
I have been MDI'ing GO W-550. just to get my turret where I would like it.
But hey I wouldn't go back 20 years, he he he.


Scappini
CNC's Rock!!!

[mikenaturalice]

i see alot of posts concerning programming, editing, etc. even haas will tell you editing or programming at the machine is not efficient (because the machine is not running, most of the time...). if you have good programming software (i.e. mastercam ). you won't want or need these other options

[makrskr]

How about a coolant "off" override button.

[Geof]

How about a coolant "off" override button.

Press the COOLNT button. If it is on it turns off and if it is off it turns on.

[htishop]

1) Haas should move the next tool button away from the X dia measure and put it on the hand jog line of keys.
2) Haas should beef up thier bolt on turret on the SL 20, I get way to much flex when I put 4-5 od turning tools in pockets 1-4.
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