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  1. #1
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    Different Servo Motors on One Machine

    Hello All,
    I am piecing a new gantry wood router together from my latest ebay scavenging. In doing so, it has got me leaning in the direction of eventually having a bit of variance in the chosen servos on the 3 axis (in size and voltage).
    Since my previous machines have had identical motors on x,y,z so it feels a little odd in deviating from that, but the more I think about it, the duty, or about of work doled out by each axis, does seem to be spread out a bit unevenly.

    Looking at the amount of force required to move each axis and the weight each is holding/pushing, here is my very unscientific/guess breakdown of the percentage of power required to move each axis:
    X) 60% (needs to push/pull weight of Y and Z assemblies and gantry itself)
    Y) 25% (needs to push/pull weight of Z assembly)
    Z) 15 % (needs to push into material assisted by gravity/lift its own weight)
    The above figures are a bit exaggerated, but illustrate my question-

    Does anyone else run mismatched servo sizes on their machines?
    I know it would be convenient to have them all be identical, but due to the recycling/scrap aspect of this machine, that might not happen- at least not for the first incarnation.

    Thanks, Mike
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    ??It is often rare to have all identical motor sizes on a machine, each have usually very different loads and acceleration rates?
    Sometimes voltage variation between motors can require some changes especially when wanting to use a common supply, if supplies are separate, then it does not really matter?
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    Hey Al,
    That's good it is more common than I assumed-
    My Techno Isel had the exact same motor on all 3 axes, as well as the old mill I put together years ago (just because I happened to have 3 that matched). When I see "CNC XYZ motor kits", they (nearly) always advertise 3 identical motors. That is why I was stuck in that mindset. Breaking free from that is what felt odd at first.
    Also, yes- I plan on having 2 power supplies. I have a 30v power supply that I am going to use for the Z driver and z brake. I also plan on a 70v power supply for the X axis (has a 60v MCG motor).
    Follow up question- do you think that if my Y axis motor is rated for 38.2v that it would be streching it too far to run it from a 70v supply?
    I see often a rule of thumb that says to use a supply that is rated at 150% the max voltage of your servo's voltage rating. I suppose I could just try it and see if it works- then if not, just get a bigger servo.

    Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
    -Mike
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    70v for a 40v motor may be on the high side, it would mean your drive is going to operate in the 60% range to limit the rpm.
    see Power-Supply Considerations For Servo Amplifiers
    If these are linear supplies with toroidal transformers, you could easily remove turns to suit.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    Excellent link- I will read and reread that one in detail tonight. I haven't bought the 70v supply yet, but the one I was eying is a toroid.
    Thanks again- hopefully I'll have some more details to throw in a new machine build thread sometime soon
    Thanks, Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkojay View Post
    but the one I was eying is a torroid.
    Easy to mod, also if you need a small aux supply, just add an overwind.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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