Alright, Thanks Hoss. Also for what it is worth I have learned a bunch from you. I think I have read your entire site hossmachine.info. It has been a great read with a lot of very helpful knowledge. It was the first site I really started reading once I realized that my cnc router wasn't really what I was looking for and decided I wanted a full machine. You currently have the two machines I am very interested in the Grizzly 704 and the rf-45 ( I am very interested in the MTW) for the large table. Any way I would love to be able to give some knowledge and suggestions back in the form of help, for all the help and knowledge you have given to this community.