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  1. #1
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    Call Guhring, they have great products with solid technical support. I recently upgraded my drilling process on 304 material and I'm drilling a lot faster with greater tool life based on their suggestions.

    Also, keep your oil fresh, if it's been awhile since you changed it, then I would suggest to change it before you start your larger production run. Many shops underestimate the value of clean oil and sacrifice tool life because they think their oil is "good enough".

    One of the unique hurdles in swiss-type machining is there are more opportunities for your cutting oil to be diluted by bar feed oil & way lube. I've seen many applications return better results by just putting in new oil.

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    The only problems I have ever found running any type of stainless is that I usually needed about 1/8D peck increment with full retract. Was not a problem of clearing chips, was a problem of not keeping the drill cool. Remember, the flutes of the drill pull the chips AND THE COOLANT out of the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txcncman View Post
    The only problems I have ever found running any type of stainless is that I usually needed about 1/8D peck increment with full retract. Was not a problem of clearing chips, was a problem of not keeping the drill cool. Remember, the flutes of the drill pull the chips AND THE COOLANT out of the hole.
    I used to have the same issue however, over the past few years, I've learned to follow the speeds/feeds suggested on some applications.

    For so many years, I came across applications where the speeds/feeds didn't apply to swiss-type machining. So, my learned or natural response was to do it how I thought it was supposed to be done. This led me down a path of always "going slower" or peck cycles or whatever.

    Then I started to try some of the tool manufacturer suggestions and things started to get better and easier. Now, I understand and I'm sure many people in the forum for CNC Swiss understand that every application has its caveats.

    So, with that said, sometimes the tool manufacturer is correct but, that doesn't mean that we can't use good judgment and experience to make good parts and have good tool life.

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    Guess I should have added, this technique was used mainly with much older machines with very poor coolant delivery systems.

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    We run mainly 304ss in our shop in in Swiss machines. We carefully monitor tool life. All of our machines have high pressure cooling systems, it is almost a must for running production 304 parts with small holes. Mitsubishi makes coolant through drills down to .029", and they are fantastic. It is the only coolant through drills we buy under 3mm. If you follow their recomendations for speeds and feeds, you will never go wrong.
    www.atmswiss.com

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