B Rad and Bam have both been helpful at times even if they might be the same person. Though the validity of the test might be in question, if the test is done with similar parameters (spindle nose 5" off the table etc) I can make a conclusion of some form. Seems like somene told me a while ago that my fan idea wouldnt work. Hoss did me a favor because I asked him to, and he was prepared with all the necessary tooling and knowledge. IMO it worked. Now I am asking Katran to do a similar test. If you have a better way by all means let us know but until then I still want a test that has been applied to other machines the same way.