How did you learn the Machinist trade?
On the job training
From a family member
Apprenticeship program
Vocational Tech School
Self taught
Military training
How did you learn the Machinist trade?
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It's not what you take away, it's what you are left with that counts!
CETA Training program though Mas Dep. of Employment and Training 1981 Quincy,Mass. 6 month Then on to first job as tool and cutter grinder $4.20/hour
Books and hands on. Had a bit of an early advantage though as I was being paid by John Bean May & Barret to install and maintain automotive alignment, brake and engine machinery when I was still in school. (long story, not worth the telling)
First actual machine tool exposure was right after high school, running lathes and mills finishing and tuning cast rolls for the printing industry. Just kinda growed from there
Tiger
Traditional apprentice program which was actually a contract between the company that I was indentured to and my father. The apprenticeship term was 10,000 hours and for the first three years included one day every two weeks attendance at technical school and two nights a week night school. Because I lived in the country I did correspondence schooling instead of night school. I started a few months after my 16th birthday and because I completed all my exams with acceptable marks I had the term reduced to 8,000 hours. My papers for Completion of Apprenticeship and my New Zealand Trade Certificate as a Fitter, Turner and Toolmaker were dated on my 21st birthday.
I don't think these kind of apprenticeships are at all common now, anywhere.
The interesting thing is that two years later I moved to Canada and in the first job I got there I finished up supervising apprentices 5 years older than me.
Working on getting a call from the owner and hoping I will get my very first machine shop job, washing cars gets tiring after a while, 3 years.
cadfish
http://www.burgiengineers.com/
NTMA,
8 months pre-employement training. then they sent me to work @ $8 an hour, employer sent me back to NTMA for cnc programming 1 & 2, then I went back for mastercam 1 & 2.
now I make 3 times that.
Thanks NTMA.
I think "did" is the wrong word in my case.How did you learn the Machinist trade?
I would say, still learning and have a long way to go.
The woods are long and dark and deep,
and I have miles to go before I sleep.
reading books and breaking things...
still doing a lot of both after these few years
To start, high school metalshop, after that bought a lathe then trial and error.
If it's not nailed down, it's mine.
If I can pry it loose, it's not nailed down.
For me it was two almost worthless years of community "college" then 14 years at an Austrian machine building company - first as a tool and cutter grinder, then a machinist, then machine assembly and finally Engineering.
Lots of broken cutters, scrap parts and many years later, I am still playing.
Scott
Consistency is a good thing....unless you're consistently an idiot.
I wouldnt even begin to claim being part of the machinst 'trade', however I think like most peiople here it was a lfielong interest in mechanics, robotics, electronics, etc.
The real catalyst was building music equipment when I was a teenager, this required me to get a bandsaw and drill press to fabricate the complex analog circuits and faceplates... However, I have always been obsessed with robotics, and when I realized I could build usefull robots(almsot 3 years ago now) I was immediately obsessed.
The other catalyst has to be Industrial design school. I didnt learn a huge amount from the instructors, but the environment was invaluable to a self-starter like myself. Seriousely, want to learn alot of practical skills? Goto any school that has a shop you can access. Beleive me, the community college shop may be much better than you think!
Robert
It's amazing how many "Self Taught" machinists there are !
Eric
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http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19483
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19602
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19425
According to all my polls, there are a lot of "Self Taught" "Tool & Die Makers" with "Drill presses"
Now that is a scarry thought!
Eric
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When I first looked at all the polls you started, I thought you were planning a break-in. But it is a good disguised and performed anthropological research! Now get in your shelter for all the stones and sticks that will be thrown.
Carel
Actually, I was trying to put the Machinist back in the picture, most people don't realize that it was the Machinist who opened the doors to CNC machining.Originally Posted by fkaCarel
Today, a CNC machine's skills are only as good as the software you program!
Yesterday, a machine's skills were only as good as the opperator running it!
Unfortunately, as the CNC machines have evolved, the machinist's trade has devolved! There is such a void of training as the result of CNC automation, the old skills are no longer in demand!
Foruunately, I'm retired now and it longer effects my livelyhood. Today I just tinker, and have fun in my shop! But cutting metal was my first love, and it still is!
Eric
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City and Guilds of London Apprenticeship program (UK 1970s) from then on new stuff from every shop that I have worked in.
Forrey
Originally Posted by widgitmaster
I thought the egg-heads at MIT came up with NC....
Them, and, i am sure, the warmongers in govt...
If you take the term Machinist at its widest definition, Machinists came up with everything because they made the machines that made everything possible.
But I suppose the comment about warmongers is accurate because the impetus behind the development of the first lathes and boring machines was to bore cannon barrels. James Watt adapted techniques from cannon manufacture to the boring of the cylinders for his steam engines.
funny thing is that I just noticed the title under my name just changed to machinist, since I've gotta say I'm not one. I've been learning in the Mechanical engineering shop as much as I can. Someday, I'll get my mill working and get better at cnc. Still not very practiced at using a lathe. Someday I'll get my lathe working and I'll get better at that. Seems to be a theme running through this post.
I noticed when I first joined my title, as everyones, was chip sweeper, which I never was then apprentice which I have not been for a long long time.Originally Posted by unterhaus