Sanjiv, I think boarder could have been a little more specific re his request without giving away too much information. I have no problem telling people about my design and where I want to go with it, while I dont give away specifics. I beleive Dar was simply annoyed by the fact that there was nowhere to go or if his skills could fit the design intent (commercial, novelty, musical) or more specifically a screwdriver, extra large shot glass, or trombone....