[ShopSabre]

This is not entirely true statement, to clear up some confusion you absolutely can upgrade to the Spindle in the field on any ShopSabre Router - this is an advertised benefit to owning ShopSabre Technology.
You can start with a scaled budget and grow as you need with most options -- the Spindle package is a common upgrade in the field because accessories are expandable quality is not.

The ShopSabre Spindle package is the Mitsubishi VFD and HSD Italian Electric Cooled Spindles - they are the top rated packages on the market.

Again we are happy to discuss with you as well, you can call our team or reach out to Brandon directly as well (Sales Manager)

Thank you!

- The ShopSabre Team

I have been researching similar machines. Couple things I have found comparing Shop Sabre 23 to the AVID pro 2x4

Shop Sabre:
Cost $9200 includes machine, shipping, and a set of bits. (Does not include base or dust collection or other misc.) Enough to start cutting.
Complete machine ready to go without assy. Actually tested before machine is shipped.
Shop Sabre needs to be purchased with the spindle up front +$3700... cannot upgrade later if start with a router as needs different controller and wiring.
Shop Sabre spindle option is more expensive ($3700 vs $1700 but not sure on spindle quality)
From everything I have read and heard there service and support is the best

Avid CNC
Cost $7500, includes machine with all similar accessories to Shop Sabre, router, set of bits, computer, shipping. (Does not include base or dust collection or other misc.)
Can be upgraded to larger machine
Will need assembly
Can be upgraded to spindle without changing controller
3hp spindle upgrade $1700 (not sure on how quality of spindles compare)

Question I still have is comparing the 3D carving capability of the 2. The Shop Sabre is ball screw and the Avid is rack/pinion. Does anyone have experience with detailed carving on the Avid pro rack and pinion machines?

[Kspe]

This is not entirely true statement, to clear up some confusion you absolutely can upgrade to the Spindle in the field on any ShopSabre Router - this is an advertised benefit to owning ShopSabre Technology.
You can start with a scaled budget and grow as you need with most options -- the Spindle package is a common upgrade in the field because accessories are expandable quality is not.

The ShopSabre Spindle package is the Mitsubishi VFD and HSD Italian Electric Cooled Spindles - they are the top rated packages on the market.

Again we are happy to discuss with you as well, you can call our team or reach out to Brandon directly as well (Sales Manager)

Thank you!

- The ShopSabre Team

Thanks for clarification... apologize for mis-stating. I had the Shop Sabre 23 quoted and that was my understanding regarding the spindle.... That it required a different controller setup and wiring and would not be cost effective to update in the field from a router to spindle. I will have to check back on that for additional info.

[ShopSabre]

No apology necessary we just want to make sure you get what is necessary for making your decision.

The spindle absolutely can be added in the field down the road - you could also retro-fit your own if you choose to do so, ShopSabre just would not support that non-OEM component.

You will have some upgrades you will do in the field yes but it is possible to do.
Give us a shout, we are happy to help.

Thanks for clarification... apologize for mis-stating. I had the Shop Sabre 23 quoted and that was my understanding regarding the spindle.... That it required a different controller setup and wiring and would not be cost effective to update in the field from a router to spindle. I will have to check back on that for additional info.