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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Is the mounting plate necessary? I've seen diagrams where both the shield and ground are connected together at the E terminal? Doesn't that accomplish the same?

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Quote Originally Posted by SamHam View Post
    Is the mounting plate necessary? I've seen diagrams where both the shield and ground are connected together at the E terminal? Doesn't that accomplish the same?
    No it does not accomplish the same, you can not add a tail ( wire to a shield ), it does not become very affective by doing this, any people showing this is bad information

    You should have all your electronics mounted on a Metal plate which becomes the Ground Plane, you have a Bus or stud mounted on the Ground Plane the mains power supply Ground attaches to the Ground Plane to a Bus or a Stud then all your other Ground wires attach to this same point ( Star Ground Point )

    Some equipment have built in Shield Clamps, a Shield to be affective must be Terminated by direct Clamping to a Ground plane

    There is very little point in using a Shielded cable unless it is correctly terminated
    Mactec54

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Ok, guess I need to rethink my layout.
    Thanks for the info.
    Hopefully I'll receive the unit in the next couple of weeks.

    Sam

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Quote Originally Posted by SamHam View Post
    Ok, guess I need to rethink my layout.
    Thanks for the info.
    Hopefully I'll receive the unit in the next couple of weeks.

    Sam
    Heads up you also need to use ( 1 ) power source for the whole machine I have a feeling you would of been using ( 2 ) supplies to your machine

    240v supply 4 wire is needed then you can have 120v /240v for your machine and VFD Drive from the ( 1 ) source, then you won't create a Ground loop
    Mactec54

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    You are right - I was going to use a separate 110v circuit. I will change that now as I'm going to start the wiring this weekend.

    A couple of things to clarify if I may:

    In the US here our 220v consists or 2 110v legs, a neutral and a ground. I know that the two 110v legs (Black and Red usually) go to R and S or T. I believe that the Ground and not the Neutral goes to the Earth terminal. So the Neutral (White ) wire is not used at all. Is this correct?

    Do I run a wire from the ground on ALL electronics to the plate such as control board, Breakout board, 42v power supply, 5/12v power supply, Or just from the power supplies?

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Quote Originally Posted by SamHam View Post
    You are right - I was going to use a separate 110v circuit. I will change that now as I'm going to start the wiring this weekend.

    A couple of things to clarify if I may:

    In the US here our 220v consists or 2 110v legs, a neutral and a ground. I know that the two 110v legs (Black and Red usually) go to R and S or T. I believe that the Ground and not the Neutral goes to the Earth terminal. So the Neutral (White ) wire is not used at all. Is this correct?

    Do I run a wire from the ground on ALL electronics to the plate such as control board, Breakout board, 42v power supply, 5/12v power supply, Or just from the power supplies?
    The Power supply in NA is 120v /240v for single phase supply and has been for the last 54 years

    For your VFD Drive it has to be wire R and T plus Ground, wire color can be any color that is code for NA so 2 Black Hot wires are fine Ground is Green or Green with yellow stripe

    Yes the mains supply to your machine will have a Ground wire that connects to the Bus the Bus connects to your metal Plate ( Ground Plane ) all other electrical parts that have a Ground connection connect to the same Bus ( Star Point Grounding )

    If you have any 120v needs in your cabinet then you need a Neutral wire for that, so your 240v supply will have 2 Hot / Live Wires a Neutral Wire and a Ground Wire supplying your machine

    The Neutral is only used for the 120v supply this can not be connected to the Ground Bus that would be a safety problem if you did that
    Mactec54

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    Got it.
    Thanks again for your info.
    I'll keep you posted as I move forward

    Sam

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    Re: Finally moving up to VFD and Spindle - Looking or confirmation on some points

    I was going to the same thing. I was going to bring 110 and 220 to my control box but now reading this I'm not sure how to do this. My 220 does not have neutral wire just 2 black and the ground. How can I do this if you are saying I should not bring both grounds to cabinet to create ground loop? Can I still bring 110 to the cabinet (so I get neutral) just not use the ground wire? My 220 wire would then be used for all grounding

    Thanks

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