[skippy]

Electric radiator heaters in the middle of summer? Am I missing something?

[Oldmanandhistoy]

Electric radiator heaters in the middle of summer? Am I missing something?

Yer the rain, wind and low temperatures :violin:

John

[keitholivier]

The poster is from the UK. Its pretty cold and miserable there most of the time, since there is precious little to break the airflow from the cold atlantic year round.

But lets get this straight: Banning smoking is about giving non smokers choices. Spend a few nights in French or German restaurants and see how you like the stench of cigarette smoke on your clothes. It comes as a shock to most americans who have become accustomed to clean air no matter where they go. The worst part about the 2 countries mentioned is that (particularly in small towns) there are no options in winter. You either go hungry and freeze or endure the acrid atmosphere in the smokey hollows so that you can get something to eat.

Since tobacco is a plant, I think burning it is CO2 neutral, but then if one has to get into all the addictive (and toxic) substances added by the cigarette companies it is a different story completely.

Electric radiator heaters in the middle of summer? Am I missing something?

[stirling]

But lets get this straight: Banning smoking is about giving non smokers choices.

Not so sure about the use of the word choices Keith - banning smoking is about giving non smokers what they wanted. Choice is either for everyone or it isn't choice - it's dictat.

Choice would have allowed for smoking clubs/pubs/restaurants and non-smoking clubs/pubs/restaurants.

On a more cheery note: A friend's (20 year old non-smoking) daughter says she preffered it in night clubs when they smelled of smoke - now she reckons they just smell of stale sweat and f*rt.

[Geof]

......Choice would have allowed for smoking clubs/pubs/restaurants and non-smoking clubs/pubs/restaurants......

Yes the health freaks and social manipulators overlook that in a truly free society this would be the correct way to go.

[martinw]

Yes the health freaks and social manipulators overlook that in a truly free society this would be the correct way to go.

Dear Geof,

Those people do not want a free society. They want a society where they can boss people about as much as possible. The more rules the better, as far as they are concerned.

Incidentally, the government's argument for the smoking ban was that it was necessary to protect non-smokers from the "harm" of passive smoking, not to protect their feelings. I believe that the largest study on PS looked at the health of families of heavy smokers and could find no evidence that the non-smoking family members were harmed. Naturally, any scientific evidence disputing PS was ridiculed.

Sound familiar???

Best wishes

Martin