[TKBuisan]

I'm finally in the final stages of getting my machine. The last minute details are getting worked out/verified. A question for those 2412S users: Does the AI-NANO work with OI-MC controller? Or does one need the 18?

[PBMW]

I bought the HSM option with my 0iMc control. That is the AI Nano you refer to. I am sure it is also available on the 18i control but when I bought my machine last Sept (at least that's when I ordered it) you could not have an 18i on a 2412s. I do not know about now though.
I would certainly get the HSM option.

[TKBuisan]

I do want the HSM(AI-NANO) but I do not want to pay $17K for an 18i Controller to get it. Thanks for the info Jim.

[spock]

If you go with the OI-MC you can get the Nano without having to pay 17k.
More like 6-7k, IIRC.

[PBMW]

No, I think it was more like $1400.

[spock]

I was thinking of the control upgrade price, not the nano option, oops.

[TKBuisan]

The AI-NANO upgrade is $5K.
Found out that the HOA will cause problems w/ the CNC in the garage. Will now look for light industrial location to put my machine. I am looking for a bigger machine (3020) w/ 20HP. Hope I can stay w/ Sharp as their team is pretty good.
TKBuisan

[PBMW]

Well...That sucks.
Another quite nice machine that you may well want to have a look at would be a 3016 Daewoo. They make them in both Linear way versions and box way versions. 12k spindle, Big rapids nicer build quality and a h*ll for stout machine. I'm thinking of the box way 3016 myself. But I REALLY need to find a larger shop.

[timan]

Sent a tech from Houston to California that is nice but what happens when it is down and they cannot "step you thru it on the phone" My spelled HAAS, went down due to a operator crash last Wed around 4pm called my local HFO and they had a Service Tech here at 8am the next morning. Yes there are some quirks but all machines have quirks. I love my Haas and love the service and support I get even better!

[PBMW]

Well. I have two Haas machines. I am in the NW. That means I get to deal with Selway machine. They have screwed up SO many times I've lost count. Their level of service is, frankly, a joke.
They wanted to charge me over 6K to repair a crashed turret on my SL10. The first guy screwed up the assembly and only installed 2 balls in the cuvic coupler. Then they wanted to charge me for them to come make it right.
Sharp has overnighted parts on a loaner no problem. I can have my dealers guy here in an hour.
Much mo bettah service where I am than Haas. Much stronger machine as well
But, your service may be better than mine. And as I see it, service and after sale support is what makes or breaks a machine sale. For my shop, that excludes Haas. I just can't get those guys to even return a call. Heck...I have to throw a couple thousand dollars at the stinkin thing every two months.

[Garlicdude]

I bought the HSM option with my 0iMc control. That is the AI Nano you refer to. I am sure it is also available on the 18i control but when I bought my machine last Sept (at least that's when I ordered it) you could not have an 18i on a 2412s. I do not know about now though.
I would certainly get the HSM option.

Friend of mine in Chicago bought a Sharp with the 18i control, and an arm type tool changer. I think Sharp will configure them anyway you want with in reason.

I've had mine for 4 years now with no problems.

Best,
Steve

[olslowhand]

Just ordered 2 - 2412 Supers with 4th axis setups, chip auger, auto doors, upgraded coolant pump, etc... We should have them on the floor by mid - October.

I speced these machined over Haas due to the fact they were box ways, had Fanuc controls, 2 year warranty and all the positive feedback I have read here on this forum. The Haas MiniMills are a much lighter, less rigid machine. We have about 4 of these installed and they are good for the particular applications they were purchased for, but my current application requires a heavier machine.

We cut lots of 4130 and 410 CRES. Once they are up and running, I will report back.

[PBMW]

I think you'll like them. They hog steel like it ain't got no bizness

[M0NKEY2TO2]

2412s are great machines. We have 2 on our floor and 3 on another floor. Good machines considering the materials we hog with it. We do alot of inconel, monel, incoloid, and titanium, and the machines have let us down. We just got a new Sharp on the floor, a SV4020, this past Tuesday. We are still working out a few kinks here and there, but compared to our Daewoos, this machine is a whole lot more user friendly.

[PBMW]

What kind of Daewoos?
I have my eye on a 3016 box way Daewoo...

[M0NKEY2TO2]

I am not sure of all the models right now. I am at home, but I will get you more informantion tomorrow. Our shop only has Sharps, but our front shop is more production and we are prototype. The Daewoos are great machines from what I hear and are good for high production.