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  1. #1
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    I would agree with matt @RFR about soft jaws
    if you want repeatability that is the way to go.
    I would also add that when you cut your soft jaws machine an area where you can touch off for xyz when you go back to that job and reinstall the jaws on your vise you know where they are located.
    I do this because we take a skim cut off our soft jaws any time we go back and setup a job we have done before.

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    Smile I knew it would be hard

    I knew the learning curve is going to be steep and I am very glad I found this forum. An easy exchange of ideas and answers to questions it great.

    I have found the most confounding thing about my CAM software is the (to me) odd way it set-up 2 1/2 axis versus 3 axis operations and this is a big cause of issues relating to touching off and accuracy.

    In Alibre CAM all machining is done parallel to the xy plane. In 3 axis mode it 'knows' where the part is relative to the xy plane and takes into account the height of the Box Stock (the imaginary starting block of material to be machined) from the most upper point of the part. In 2 1/2 axis machining you have to locate the top of your part relative to the xy axis and then add the top of your box stock to the point you are going to get to as you do a facing operation.

    Why they designed it this way is a mystery. Because I have not actually used or seen other CAM systems up close I have no idea if that is just the industry standard or if MecSoft is insane

    Thanks for the help. The curve is getting a little less steep thanks to guys like you.

    Cheers,

    Bloefeld

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    Generally I have all the tools to be set off to top of the stock. I use a 1.000" alumium block like a go nogo gage. (So not to lower the tools directly on the part or on the block.*) Use the z tool set option on the control for each tool. Then go in and add -1.000 to each tool length. You can do this in the wear column.

    If I'm going to machine two sides in one setup, I put the second side in a second G offset. First side G54. Second side G55. and place any difference for the Z value in the G55 Z setting.

    For example: If the first side the hight of the machined part finishes, lets say at 1.25 inches. The second side the finish width is to be 1.225. Then in the Z value for G55 I would place -0.025. The G54 Z value being 0 (zero.)

    Any questions?

    [The go nogo method. You jog (.010 setting) each tool about 1.00 above part. And lower it until the 1.000" block will not slide under the tool. Then rase it up .010 at at time, until it goes under the tool. Then lower it just .010 so the block does not go. Then change the setting to .001. And rase up to tool .001 and check. Repeat. When it goes under the tool. the hight is there. If you want to set it to .0001 repeat the method using .001 to .0001 setting. Typically .001 is close enough.]
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