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  1. #1
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    okuma howa getting started

    To start off the shop i work at has just purchased a okuma howa with a fanuc 18-t control. noone here has programmed this machine before. i am having trouble with the machine going past home when i give it a X+ Z+ for a tool change. what are we doing wrong. all the other okumas we have are not like this. thanks

    jesse

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    i am having trouble with the machine going past home when i give it a X+ Z+ for a tool change
    is it lathe?
    is the trouble a sound, smoke/ smell or maybe some error message there?

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    Like Algirdas said, we need more info on the problem. I have some manuals and procedures for this control. Let me know an e-mail and after the holiday weekend i will see about sending them to you. They are in Adobe pdf.

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    with a fanuc 18-t control
    Since it is a Fanuc control, i would think your home line should look like this:

    Nxxxx G28 U0.0 Z0.0

    Fanuc and OSP are a bit different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oti View Post
    Since it is a Fanuc control, i would think your home line should look like this:

    Nxxxx G28 U0.0 Z0.0

    Fanuc and OSP are a bit different.
    I think you meant G28 U0 W0

    Chris

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    ok sorry guys yes it is act 15 lathe. no problem with the machine. just a programming problem. i think chris is on the right path. i did try this and when i give it the G28 line it nolonger give the overtravel alarm. but it does not go to the correct position to where my tools are touched off to X0. Z0. i wants to go past them. Is there anything special i have to do when touching off my tools. as in a work coord. or anything that would be diff from our other okuma lathes.

    jesse

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    Your geometry and or wear offsets are probably still active. You may need to cancel them with the addition of T0

    G28 U0 W0 T0

    Chris

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    ok tried the G28 U0 W0 T0. the machine will atleast move toward the turret now. however now it goes way past where i have the tool zeroed at. if someone had a simple sample program i could look at it might help me understand what i am doing wrong.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessebpm View Post
    ok tried the G28 U0 W0 T0. the machine will atleast move toward the turret now. however now it goes way past where i have the tool zeroed at. if someone had a simple sample program i could look at it might help me understand what i am doing wrong.

    thanks
    Unfortunately your explanations are part of the problem. How can the machine move towards the turret? I tried to reason that out as the axis moved towards the turret but that didn't make sense either. Let's try this...

    G28 U0 W0 T0
    This command will send the axis to home position and cancel any active tool offsets.

    G28 X0 Z0 T0
    This command will send the axis to home position and cancel any active tool offsets, however, it will first move to absolute zero which can result in a crash.

    G00 X0 Z0
    This command will move the axes to absolute X0 Z0. Now, if you don't have any offset active, that means the tool lengths will not be taken into account and the turret may try to get to the part (destroying the tool on it's way).

    T0101
    This will call up tool one (T01), the second 01 activates the offsets stored in register 01. There can be wear offsets (on the wear page) and Geometry offsets (on the Geometry page).

    T0
    Cancels all active tool offsets (wear and geometry).

    Chris

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    sorry i know i am not the best at explaining what i mean. here is what i think i am saying. If i command G0 X0 Z0 the turrett in my machine goes as far away from the chuck as it can. almost like absolute zero has been changed to machine home position. let me know if this helps

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    Jesse,
    Are you sure this machine has geometry offsets. We used to have a twin spindle Okuma-Howa (late 1980's model) that required the use of the G50 coordinate system. I don't recall what control was on this machine. I have included a program from this machine for your reference.

    Rick

    N10G0G28U0W0
    N20M11
    N30M1

    N40G0G28U0W0
    N50G50X20.014Z19.115S400
    N60T0500M74
    N70G97S50M3
    N80X14.85Z0.13T0505M8
    N90X13.85
    N100G96S126
    N110G99G1X10.3F0.011
    N120G0Z0.23
    N130X13.85
    N140Z0.065
    N150G1X10.3
    N160G0Z0.165
    N170X13.4534
    N180G1X13.73Z0.0267
    N190Z-1.575
    N200G0X13.83Z-1.525
    N210Z1.1
    N211G97S50M75
    N220G28U0W0T0500M9
    N230M1

    N240G0G28U0W0
    N250G50X22.554Z12.71S400
    N260T1100M74
    N270G97S50M3
    N280G99X10.4Z1.1T1111M8
    N290Z0.165
    N300G96S121
    N310G71U0.1R0.05
    N320G71P330Q360U0W0F0.012
    N330G0X11.3366
    N340G1X11.06Z0.0267F0.012
    N350Z-1.3
    N360X10.96
    N370G0Z1.1
    N380G97S50M75
    N390G28U0W0T1100M9
    N400M5
    N410M12
    N420M0

    N430M11
    N440G0G28U0W0
    N450G50X20.014Z19.115S400
    N460T0500M74
    N470G97S50M3
    N480X14.85Z-0.0883T0505M8
    N490X13.85
    N500G96S126
    N510G99G1X13.6734Z0.0F0.011
    N520X10.3
    N530G0Z1.1
    N540G97S50M75
    N550G28U0W0T0500M9
    N560M1

    N570G0G28U0W0
    N580G50X22.554Z12.71S400
    N590T1100M74
    N600G97S50M3
    N610G99X9.8Z1.1T1111M8
    N620Z0.1
    N630G96S105
    N640G71U0.1R0.05
    N650G71P660Q700U0W0F0.0105
    N660G0X13.0606
    N670G1X12.784Z-0.0383F0.0105
    N680Z-1.779
    N690X11.1366
    N700X10.96Z-1.8673
    N710G0Z1.1
    N720G97S50M75
    N730G28U0W0T1100M9
    N740M5
    N750M12
    N760M30
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