Originally Posted by
SanDiegoCNC
Part of the reason why its better to work from the front left corner is because it keeps all of your X and Y values positive. Another is that materials are not always cut to the same relative size. That means you have to either find the smallest sized part and use that for your setup or adjust the datum further into the part to compensate for the occasional undersized block. That's something you learn from experience, not by taking a course or two in programming and calling yourself a machinist. :cheers:
The front left corner on a Kurt vise is the movable jaw, so if the stock varies my program origin could be inside or outside of the stock. The Left rear being stationary will keep my program origin at the corner of the stock at all times no matter the stock variation. So how would it be better to use a floating point for an origin rather than a fixed one? I'm not following that at all. If they set a work offset to an over sized blank then when using a smaller blank the toolpath could easily be off the stock, when using the fixed jaw the toolpath will always be on the stock providing the stock is large enough to contain the part.
The only reason I can think of to keep the coordinates all in a positive quadrant would be to help the operators to edit a program at the machine. Why would I want under qualified persons editing my program? I've spent time engineering a process, creating SPC data sheets, creating work instructions, established minimal and maximum conditions for the stock, programmed the part, designed secondary operation fixtures, quality assurance instructions and a setup package to document it all that supplies all the pertinent data to the setup person, operator and QC tech. I just don't see the benefit. Granted the majority of my programs originate from the center of rotation but even then I need a known position of the corner of the stock so it is always going to be a fixed position of my work holding device otherwise mismatch would be a problem when I rotate the work.
3600V Kurts. Love them. They are ground in which makes them nice. I have 4 per pallet on our HMC and they locate on keys mounted to the pallet. The greatest deviation from one vise to another is .0003. I also like the fact they are less susceptible to lift and can be mounted vertically as well. As a lower cost option, we bought 8 at once, they are nice. I know there are better ones on the market, but like I said we had to buy 8 of them when we tooled up the horizontal so we went with the Kurts rather than another brand.
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