[double a-ron]

Mastercam and Gibbs are very expensive. If you have to ask you probably can't afford it. We have Gibbs Multi Task Machine (MTM) software and we have about $25,000 into it with the post processor. That is for one seat and doesn't include full 3, 4, or 5 axis contouring. You could easily add another 10 to 20 large to that number. You can take about $14,000 off that number for the MTM module and post.

Our options:

Solids import
2.5d solids
advanced cs
rotary mill
production mill
Multi Task Machine

[WallyL7]

Holy crap bigjw. Get a life. Mastercam is second to none when it comes to easily getting toolpath to make money with a machine. I have used geopath, pro, bobcad(cough), gibbs, and a number of others, so I do know from experience.

Some have their minor complaints, but the software is SOLID. The fact that this guy has problems with a bootleg...(nuts) he asked for it.

Go buy the software, or get a 30 day trial from your dealer. Then see if you are having the same issues.

As far as dealing...good luck. They are a bit like Haas, and the price is the price...although, I've heard of at least one guy getting a bit of a price break (not me).

I do know that full surfacing 3 axis with solid modeling is about 15k(level 3). 12k for solids with some surfacing( level 2). It's pricey, but worth it. And now that I see what Gibbs costs, perhaps it's a bargain!

[Mike Mattera]

This is not the place to get pricing. Everyone is going to tell you a ridiculous price. Talk to your dealer and get a quote for the level you need.

News flash: If you say "just quote me everything" It's just like buying a Lexus with all the options. It will be $20K.

There's a good chance that 1 Basic mill and 1 Basic lathe with maintenance will be about $9K. A lot cheaper than the fines you'll pay when you get caught. It's also upgradable. Get what you need now and add to it later.

I'm assuming your making money with it now. Dont think of it as how much you have to spend. Think about all the money you made with your "unlimited Free Trial". Do the right thing.

[foxsquirrel]

I cry about MasterCrap X3 alot however you guys running pirate versions are the biggest losers and deserve all the problems you are having with the software.