Holy crap bigjw. Get a life. Mastercam is second to none when it comes to easily getting toolpath to make money with a machine. I have used geopath, pro, bobcad(cough), gibbs, and a number of others, so I do know from experience.

Some have their minor complaints, but the software is SOLID. The fact that this guy has problems with a bootleg...(nuts) he asked for it.

Go buy the software, or get a 30 day trial from your dealer. Then see if you are having the same issues.

As far as dealing...good luck. They are a bit like Haas, and the price is the price...although, I've heard of at least one guy getting a bit of a price break (not me).

I do know that full surfacing 3 axis with solid modeling is about 15k(level 3). 12k for solids with some surfacing( level 2). It's pricey, but worth it. And now that I see what Gibbs costs, perhaps it's a bargain!