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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by raymondg View Post
    Hoss,
    Thanks for the heads up on that. I was overdue for getting a good selection of endmills to have on hand for all the projects. Now I am well stocked, and my wallet isn't nearly as light as it would have been.

    Regards,
    Raymond

    Good to hear, I signed up and get emails when stuff goes on sale,
    tooling is 35% off from time to time.
    That's when I stock up even if I don't need to.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    *hides the wd40 can next to his new wmd16v*
    *hides his cans behind fish's wmd16v* :wee:

  3. #223
    covering all my cans with Mythbuster brand labels.
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    covering all my cans with Mythbuster brand labels.
    haha

    im doing somethign to my little mill that might be of interest here since is a "non destructive" mod.

    if you find yourself needing more Z clearance on the machine when you get a big vise and long r8 tool in there, you can take the Z saddle off fairly easily, and mount it upside down. the lead scre will still connect the same way, and the head can mount upside down (it swivels 360). this will get you 3-4" of extra clearance (not sure how big the saddle is on the grizzly).

    then you can always put it back later if you need to get closer to the table.

  5. #225
    Good idea though the gain on the grizzly would only be 1.5 inches, the pivot is much closer to center
    than on the wm16.
    I'll try it during the CNC conversion, the slot for the leadscrew nut mount will have to be widened a little
    to make up for the head being a 1/2 inch off center.
    Looks like the stock screw is long enough to make up for the 4 inch difference in leadscrew nut position,
    could let it over travel a bit.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    I'll try it during the CNC conversion, the slot for the leadscrew nut mount will have to be widened a little
    to make up for the head being a 1/2 inch off center.
    why would it need to be widened?

    the way it is on mine, thered the leadscrew block, which hassome lateral movement abolity (few mm each way) and the lead nut is in a round socket that pivots freely. when you flip the saddle, the nut just swivels around and is in the same spot. it wouldnt change a lot when going cnc i dont think in terms of being centred.

    im confoosed

  7. #227
    Theres some extra movement of the nut mount possible, the slot looks like it could
    allow 1/4, but flipping the head over would need about 1/2 to line back up with
    the centerline of the leadscrew as it is now.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Theres some extra movement of the nut mount possible, the slot looks like it could
    allow 1/4, but flipping the head over would need about 1/2 to line back up with
    the centerline of the leadscrew as it is now.
    Hoss
    why is this? are the dovetails on the column not centred? on mine they are. the gib is cut out of the saddle.

    if the dovetail isnt centred, you probably wouldnt get the best results flipping it over.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    why is this? are the dovetails on the column not centred? on mine they are. the gib is cut out of the saddle.

    if the dovetail isnt centred, you probably wouldnt get the best results flipping it over.

    Nope not centered, a 1/2 off as I've been saying.
    A pic is worth a thousand words.
    Hoss
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    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Nope not centered, a 1/2 off as I've been saying.
    A pic is worth a thousand words.
    Hoss
    ahhhhhh. ok.
    well nevermind then. haha. wonder why they choose to do things that way on one machine, but not others.

    on mine, the Y and Z are symetrical, the X table is off centred.

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    The z axis "saddle" is symmetrical on both sides, that's why the dovetail on the z column is offset; then there's room for a decent sized gib to fill up that extra space, without weakening the "saddle". Also, in this fashion the gib in essence functions as an adjustable extension of the dovetail, one that moves with the "saddle", which after all is the whole idea. IMO the size, tapering, and fit of the gibs on the BF20's really make the machine a good performer for it's size class.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails frontofcolumn.jpg   bf20L5.jpg  

  12. #232
    Made the pulleys for the belt drive and gave them a test fit, all looks good.
    Now for the motor mount.
    Should be 2000 low and 6250 rpm high.
    Hoss

    4th Axis Calibration with OTC


    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5hgHx7irqk"]YouTube- G0704 Belt Drive Pulleys[/nomedia]
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    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Damn Hoss that's some proper nice work on those pulleys. Nice going.

  14. #234
    Thanks, I've had lots of practice.
    A lot cheaper than buying them.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Thanks, I've had lots of practice.
    A lot cheaper than buying them.
    Hoss
    they look great. how well do they match the tooth profile on the belt? what type of bit do you use?

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    I know pulleys designed for flat belts have a slightly convex face so as to center the belt when its running at speed. Is it simply not necessary to the same trick with toothed belts? If not, it does make me wonder where all the money goes when you buy these things pre-made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Made the pulleys for the belt drive and gave them a test fit, all looks good.
    Now for the motor mount.
    Should be 2000 low and 6250 rpm high.
    Hoss

    4th Axis Calibration with OTC


    YouTube- G0704 Belt Drive Pulleys
    im actually kind of surprised you didnt go for a laser calibration setup

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by HellPhish View Post
    im actually kind of surprised you didnt go for a laser calibration setup
    I made that Optical Tool Setter almost 2 years ago,
    about time I used it for Something.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellPhish View Post
    im actually kind of surprised you didnt go for a laser calibration setup
    Hey Hoss, you could use my Motor tuning steps program in the Timing pulley program to setup the A axis for Mach3 steps. Great Video loved it!
    Bob A
    http://www.cad2gcode.com/pulley
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  20. #240
    Can't believe I missed that all this time, thanks.
    Hoss
    http://www.hossmachine.info - Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here. - Roy Batty -- http://www.g0704.com - http://www.bf20.com - http://www.g0602.com

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