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  1. #21
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    1800-444-3353 is the parts warehouse for Harbor Freight for anyone interested.

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    Would there be any benefit to spacing the head block out a bit from the part of the head that rides on the column, like what hoss did?

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    AS,

    Thank you for the information and fast reply.

    Jeff...
    Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstiltner View Post
    Would there be any benefit to spacing the head block out a bit from the part of the head that rides on the column, like what hoss did?
    Absolutely! Right now I am not able to take full advantage of Y travel and can make use of only 6.5". I will machine that part out once I complete the Z axis and add homing and limit switches.

    Regards,
    A.S.

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    very creative solution to the "how to extend the X2 table travel" problem.....

    well done

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    A.S.,

    Could you please post the total footprint required for this mod including steppers and full travels? The reason I ask is that I recently designed an X2 stand in SolidWorks and was almost ready to start cutting steel for it. I had figured that later when I could afford to step up to an X3 I could change the top section of the enclosure to suit the larger mill.

    The X2 is actually very good for my needs with the obvious exception of limited travel, especially the Y. Now with your excellent thinking and work on this I feel that your design/idea will suit me perfect for a long time for a lot less money.

    Again, EXCELLENT work and thank you for posting and helping everyone,

    Steve

    Below is what I have in mind (before reading what you've done)...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Mill Stand Screen Capture.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by SScnc View Post
    A.S.,

    Could you please post the total footprint required for this mod including steppers and full travels?
    Steve,

    Footprint, including travel on all axes is:

    X = 55"
    Y = 31"
    Z = 38"

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    Great, thank you very much !

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    Beautiful job A.S.

    truly inspirational

    Thanks for sharing

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    New pictures - Z axis

    Today was a good day....did a lot of 2D CNC pocketing to create the Z axis hardware. Stepper motor has not yet been wired, but everything is moving smoothly...tomorrow is a big day, if everything goes well, should run some first 3D G code.

    What's left:
    • 3" spindle extension
    • XYZ limit and homing switches
    • Lead screw covers
    • Motor covers
    • Flood collant
    • Mist coolant
    • Power drawbar for Tormach tooling system
    • Automatic tool changer
    • 4-th axis (rotary)
    • Lathe spindle (mounted on the table) for CNC turning










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    Very cool

    What's to become of the remaining X2 bits ?

    Surface grinder ?
    Anyone who says "It only goes together one way" has no imagination.

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    Care to share a little more info on the double ball nut? How exactly is it adjustable? What is the spacer in-between the two nuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclestart View Post
    Very cool

    What's to become of the remaining X2 bits ?

    Surface grinder ?
    I was considering clamping it to the verdical drill press, but who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starleper1 View Post
    Care to share a little more info on the double ball nut? How exactly is it adjustable? What is the spacer in-between the two nuts?
    Ahh...the million dollar question! It is a special nut that has an internal spring with stiffness rating of 150lb at one and half turns - it is a custom built part. Half a turn of 50lb, 3/4 turn for 75lb, full turn for 100lb, etc. There is also a retainer, designed to prevent one ball nut to spin against the other one. Keep in mind, of course, that if the resistance to motion exceeds the spring preload, backlash will come back. I have found that 100lb of preload overcomes all moving and cutting forces on X and Y, while Z requires 150lb.

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    Wow! What an awesome achievement! Good Job!

    What is the length and width of that base?

    CR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevice Reamer View Post
    What is the length and width of that base?
    The base is 24" x 16"


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    I have a Grizzly G1007 that is very similar but has a 9.5" x 32" table. I had been thinking about trying to build a column for it that would use linear rails, but I had never thought of using an X2 column assembly. Very smart idea and nice looking.

    Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by asammons View Post
    Ahh...the million dollar question! It is a special nut that has an internal spring with stiffness rating of 150lb at one and half turns - it is a custom built part. Half a turn of 50lb, 3/4 turn for 75lb, full turn for 100lb, etc. There is also a retainer, designed to prevent one ball nut to spin against the other one. Keep in mind, of course, that if the resistance to motion exceeds the spring preload, backlash will come back. I have found that 100lb of preload overcomes all moving and cutting forces on X and Y, while Z requires 150lb.
    Im guessing you use a disc spring with the given size of that collar? Very inventive of you. That is if you designed/built it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starleper1 View Post
    Im guessing you use a disc spring with the given size of that collar? Very inventive of you. That is if you designed/built it.
    I did indeed. I basically reviewed specs provided by manufacturers of preloaded nuts and used them as design guidelines to create a unique assembly that uses off-the-shelf $20 ball nuts.


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    First cuts!!

    Well, at last some first cuts. Work piece measures 2" X 4" X 1".

    Roughing passes
    • Depth of cut: 0.100"
    • Feed speed: 60 inches per minute
    • Spindle speed: 3000 rpm

    Finishing passes
    • Depth of cut: 0.001"
    • Feed speed: 60 inches per minute
    • Spindle speed: 3000 rpm


    Total machine time: 9 minutes




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