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  1. #1
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    Super X3 Upgrades and Modifications

    So I would like to start a thread on concepts of upgrades and modifications all of you guys have thought of, wished for, or even done to your Super X3. I just got my machine; I would really like to put a manually operated spindle break on the machine for Tool changes. I am looking in McMaster Carr for a band brake and then the issue, where to put it. Anyway I guess I thought it would be cool to see what other people thought of.

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    Wish List.....

    Hi dafowfidy,

    Hm...

    Let's see, what would I like for upgrades on my Super X3:

    1) Way protectors & wipers
    2) Tool changer
    3) One-shot oiler
    4) 5th axis add on


    Regards,

    Dan

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    Super X3

    And a 8000 rpm spindle could be nice
    Jeff

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    How about 9500 rpm?

    Got a gear box coming in 1 week. If it tests out well, We'll put it in the store.

    Probably $190 for the upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyilAmerica View Post
    How about 9500 rpm?

    Got a gear box coming in 1 week. If it tests out well, We'll put it in the store.

    Probably $190 for the upgrade.
    Waiting for news about this, it seems curious to run at 9500 with a gear box, please send us pics asap

    Jeff

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    if you get that high rpm with gear, you may lost low rpm power. also I feel you only need small cutter for that high rpm, so why not a seperate spindle fixed to somewhere on the headbox?

    Moreover, has anyone thought about brushless servos, provided they cost just 20% more than the stepper solution.

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    High rpm

    Quote Originally Posted by david_geng View Post
    if you get that high rpm with gear, you may lost low rpm power. also I feel you only need small cutter for that high rpm, so why not a seperate spindle fixed to somewhere on the headbox?

    Moreover, has anyone thought about brushless servos, provided they cost just 20% more than the stepper solution.

    You're right David, a separate high speed spindle seems to be a good solution.
    I'm thinking about a Kress motorspindle (8000 to 24 000 rpm) about 160 euros.
    Before let our friends from Syilamerica showing their solution.

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    Curious, what are you guys cutting that you need that high of a speed? Brian

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    3/16 "Streaker" in 6061 is around 17,000RPM.

    I assume Syil means a switchable Hi/Lo gearbox.
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    The additional high speed addons are using R8 inserted spindles. So the 9k spindle is a gearbox that is inserted in the existing spindle. Run out on the existing spindle is a respectible .0004". It's got all the regidity, makes sense to use it. The 30k rpm spindle is air powered. Each spindle only takes away 2" of travel.

    I've never tried the add another spindle to the side trick. Maybe that works well too, but I fear for the life of the bearings in those little hand tools.
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    The rigid tapping option that I have been heard rumors about sounds cool. Now we just need support in Mach3 for it.

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    new gearbox

    does the new gearbox just fit the x3 or would it fit the x2 too? thanks greg

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    Gearbox would only be X3 capable. The 30k spindle will be for both.
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    9000 rpm spindle

    if i understand correctly the gearbox will not fit the x2, but the spindle will? what is different between the stock x2 & the 9000 rpm spindle? does the 9000 rpm spindle come with higher speed bearings? how much is just the spindle & any parts it takes for the x2? thanks greg

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    anybody heard anything about the new 9500 x3 gearbox? greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyilAmerica View Post
    Gearbox would only be X3 capable. The 30k spindle will be for both.

    Anything new on this? I'm about to dive head first into an X3 and would like to finish off my budget with some serious upgrades.

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