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  1. #1
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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    I recently got a similar machine, a Biesse Rover 342, and already hate the built in control. Will probably also convert to LinuxCNC. Not quite sure how to handle all the spindles and stuff though.

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by lbtrs View Post
    I recently got a similar machine, a Biesse Rover 342, and already hate the built in control. Will probably also convert to LinuxCNC. Not quite sure how to handle all the spindles and stuff though.
    I had the majority of the machine converted to linuxcnc in about3.5 weeks. I am working on a toolchanger scheme with spindle selection. It is 75% completed. Not that hard. Have to remap Tn M6 through python, and voila. Will upload video when completed. That and a button panel to finish, but I am cutting contracts on it already.

    Not that hard to do.

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by lbtrs View Post
    I recently got a similar machine, a Biesse Rover 342, and already hate the built in control. Will probably also convert to LinuxCNC. Not quite sure how to handle all the spindles and stuff though.
    Hi, I got the same machine, a Biesse rover 342, but the controller was broken, it never ran in my shop, so I 'm in the process of retrofitting (taking it apart and seeing what we have to deal with). This machine is +25 years of age and not much can be found online of the components used. one of the "bigger deal" components I cant find anything on are the encoders used on the servo's they are hohner H3393 (I may have to swap them out)

    once you start your conversion let me know, I may have some tips for you

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by bramvh View Post
    Hi, I got the same machine, a Biesse rover 342, but the controller was broken, it never ran in my shop, so I 'm in the process of retrofitting (taking it apart and seeing what we have to deal with). This machine is +25 years of age and not much can be found online of the components used. one of the "bigger deal" components I cant find anything on are the encoders used on the servo's they are hohner H3393 (I may have to swap them out)

    once you start your conversion let me know, I may have some tips for you
    He is going to use Linuxcnc, no need to change out encoders. They work fine, The drive gets the encoders, then output to Linuxcnc. I did one of these machines and had no issues.

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by bevins View Post
    He is going to use Linuxcnc, no need to change out encoders. They work fine, The drive gets the encoders, then output to Linuxcnc. I did one of these machines and had no issues.
    I am also going to use Linuxcnc with Mesa cards, on my machine the servo drives get feedback from the motors via hall effect, and the hohner encoder on the motors goes directly to the controller it doesn't go to the drive, there are 2 types of feedback from the servo motor one goes to the drive the other one goes to the controller, the controller sends an analog signal to the drive

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by bramvh View Post
    I am also going to use Linuxcnc with Mesa cards, on my machine the servo drives get feedback from the motors via hall effect, and the hohner encoder on the motors goes directly to the controller it doesn't go to the drive, there are 2 types of feedback from the servo motor one goes to the drive the other one goes to the controller, the controller sends an analog signal to the drive
    I allready did mine and all motor wiring goes to the drives. There is no encoders on mine going directly to the controller. From the Yaskawa drives, it went to the controller. I removed them and connected them to the 7i77. It is an output out of the yaskawa drives.

    Mine is using Yaskawa drives. It is a 1995. Maybe on yours it might be but I havent seen it. What year is yours?

    EDIT

    Sorry, mine is a Biesse 346, not the same machine....

    /EDIT

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    Re: Biesse Rover 346 retrofit

    Quote Originally Posted by bevins View Post
    I allready did mine and all motor wiring goes to the drives. There is no encoders going directly to the controller.

    Mine is using Yaskawa drives. It is a 1995. Maybe on yours it might be but I havent seen it. What year is yours?
    the machine is from 1991, and uses GEC ALSTHOM drives from PARVEX type CMS2 attached is a photo, to my knowledge all 342 machines uses these types of drives, the 346 machines have other drives and motors

    Attachment 356458

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